Red lights on EHC?

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Sven

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Pull the 'main harness disconnect' connector and then see where the LED lights are now? The wires go out at the box, then we are going to take a remote wire and tag the wire inside the connector. Then with the other side of the remote wire, match the pin at the box and pin at the connector. See if the reds come on? There is your short in that one wire.

Pull the ground off the EHC. When you touch the eyelet to the battery post, is the spark soft and yellow, or is it a huge blue spark? Probably the yellow arc is normal for the EHC to be hot. Blue shows a short. May not set off the fuse to be that short, but more in a resistor kind of setting.
 

LittleMike

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I charged the battery overnight and put in the bike and the same issue happened. A strange thing is even after I take the key out all the LEDs are lit along with my oil light neutral and high beam.
You guys really think it's the battery? I might as well go ahead and order one. Anybody have an Amazon link. Or I could drive over to my local Harley shop and get one there.
 

Rottweiler

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I charged the battery overnight and put in the bike and the same issue happened. A strange thing is even after I take the key out all the LEDs are lit along with my oil light neutral and high beam.
You guys really think it's the battery? I might as well go ahead and order one. Anybody have an Amazon link. Or I could drive over to my local Harley shop and get one there.
No with the key off you should not have any lights. Was the headlight bright with key on? If you can ohm out the key switch.
 

LittleMike

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Maybe put a jumper around the key switch to see if it makes any difference.
The old battery was bad. With a new Harley battery all the lights come on but you cannot switch to hi beam or make the blinkers or brake lights blink but they come on. Also I still have all the red leds light and even after removing the key the red leds stay on. I remove a battery lead to shut those off. But the slam button will turn the bike over, but will not start. man, wtf?
 

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Sven

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Wow, an original 04 EHC. You got your money worth out of that. Considering they were recalled back in 05. I've seen a couple come through my shop. Go ahead and get ahold of the Kaptin. He has the perfect replacement for it.
www.wildsteedworx.com
Littie, I rather attempt the refire with said parts. It be fun scratching my head. Correct voltage did not change things. BD did not have a LED reading tree as far as lights on. You're most likely stuck with the historical field fix.

Edit: And with Steed, you get a walk thru with any problem replacing it. Save 20... who you gonna call?
 

Mikeinjersey

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The old battery was bad. With a new Harley battery all the lights come on but you cannot switch to hi beam or make the blinkers or brake lights blink but they come on. Also I still have all the red leds light and even after removing the key the red leds stay on. I remove a battery lead to shut those off. But the slam button will turn the bike over, but will not start. man, wtf?
You may have had a short in your battery which took out the EHC. If your getting an ignition fault light that's why your bike won't start. The slam button just makes the starter run. Look for broken or chaffed wires all over the bike, any place you can access and see. If you have no success troubleshooting make sure you put a fuse or circuit breaker between the battery and the new EHC before you attempt to start the bike. If you don't and the issue was not resolved it could very well take out the new EHC.

In your post #13 you said the headlight was the last thing you worked on and in #15 you looked at it again and didn't see any problem. By design the headlight comes on with the key and also will go from high to low back to high to low and so on if the filaments are bad or somethings wrong with the circuit. That may explain the one second blinking your experiencing. Double check the headlight wiring and make sure your High,Low and Ground connections are correct. Not sure what work you did on the headlight but don't discount you may have caused the problem. We have all done that one time or another !!
It's free to troubleshoot and inspect but several hundred to replace the EHC. Take your time and try not to be impatient.
Good Luck
 

Rottweiler

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I agree with Mike in Jersey if the EHC doesn't see the correct load for the headlight it thinks there's a problem. Did you change from the H4 to a LED ? Some LED don't work with the EHC.
 

LittleMike

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Thanks guys for all replies.
I'm bummed and burnout from searching for a bad wire. My headlight was just replacing the the 3 connectors and bulb and I'm confident that is not the issue. 550$ for a new one. This may end my riding season early.
 
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knothead

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Thanks guys for all replies.
I'm bummed and burnout from searching for a bad wire. My headlight was just replacing the the 3 connectors and bulb and I'm confident that is not the issue. It is very strange that the ehc is still lit even after removing the key. I wish there was a way to know for sure if the ehc is dead, damn 550$ for a new one. This may end my riding season early.
With the key off look behind the coil and unplug the key switch itself from the harness and tell us if the lights on the ehc are still lit or not...im curious
 

Mikeinjersey

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Just one more try , start with the headlight and disconnect the bulb. Then look for a change on the EHC fault lights for clues. Continue to other connectors on the bike and look for change as well. The reason I'm harping on the headlight is because it has the capability of pulling down some high current which may have caused your battery to retire. Knothead's idea is excellent because somehow that circuit is holding when the key is off.
After your exhausted and wanting to order the EHC first pull yours out for a careful look at all the wires and pins. Also if you remove it WildSteedWORX can test yours before you buy the new one. It's like a $46 dollar insurance policy against you buying an EHC you didn't need.
 

LittleMike

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Just one more try , start with the headlight and disconnect the bulb. Then look for a change on the EHC fault lights for clues. Continue to other connectors on the bike and look for change as well. The reason I'm harping on the headlight is because it has the capability of pulling down some high current which may have caused your battery to retire. Knothead's idea is excellent because somehow that circuit is holding when the key is off.
After your exhausted and wanting to order the EHC first pull yours out for a careful look at all the wires and pins. Also if you remove it WildSteedWORX can test yours before you buy the new one. It's like a $46 dollar insurance policy against you buying an EHC you didn't need.
Yes the light bulb is out and no change on the LEDs. I'm going to slowly start going and pulling it out and send it to Wild works. That is an awesome idea. Once I get it out I will give them a call. Thank you guys I really appreciate the help on this
 
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