Well now it's probably the solenoid wire inside broke. You should be able to resolder it if it's not really broken and missing.
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Mikeinjersey
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Reminder: disconnect the battery first. Pay special attention to where the green wire connects on the inside. If it's broken that's your problem. If not, remove the plunger and spring to look for damage or broken pieces that could cause the bind. The plunger should go in and out freely. Clean the contacts when your inside and remove burns and any pitting.
FIXED!!
Thanks to you guys for the replies. I wasn't understanding what you were referring to when you said the wires inside.
Mr.Wright contacted me and explained the wires needed resoldering and where they were and what they looked like.
You all saved me the cost of a new starter and the damn time it would have taken to remove it.
Let me tell you , I almost shitted my pants when the starter worked.
This issue went throught two mechanics who both said it needed a new starter and you guys and Mr. Wright fixed it, so awesome!
Thanks again guys!
Mike
Thanks to you guys for the replies. I wasn't understanding what you were referring to when you said the wires inside.
Mr.Wright contacted me and explained the wires needed resoldering and where they were and what they looked like.
You all saved me the cost of a new starter and the damn time it would have taken to remove it.
Let me tell you , I almost shitted my pants when the starter worked.
This issue went throught two mechanics who both said it needed a new starter and you guys and Mr. Wright fixed it, so awesome!
Thanks again guys!
Mike
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Ya, I'm really happy.
One issue I'm having is the soleniod sticks and runs the battery dead until the starter stops.
I've cleaned and polished it but I think its the spring that goes onto the solenoids shaft. I am going to check my local hardware store for a replacement.
One issue I'm having is the soleniod sticks and runs the battery dead until the starter stops.
I've cleaned and polished it but I think its the spring that goes onto the solenoids shaft. I am going to check my local hardware store for a replacement.
I wonder if I could use the kit for 2005 and up even though mine is a 2004?
don't they use the same starter?
don't they use the same starter?
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Mikeinjersey
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Good news glad you were able to get the starter fixed. I'm not sure what you mean by your solenoid sticking and running the battery dead. Is it cranking the engine?
Ya, cranks until dead if I use the slam button. I can't test anything right because of a dead battery, its charging now. The solenoid sticks. I saw a thread on here with the same issue. But I'm thinking its the spring. It seems weak.
Wtf? I didn't do anything to this thing? It started perfectly last night.
Mikeinjersey
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I'm having trouble understanding you. Are you saying after you made the repair on the wire inside the solenoid the bike started and all was well? Then when you used the slam button and it stuck in until the battery ran down? Did the motor start or was the starter just spinning and not engaging.
Starter was spinning and turning the engine over at the same time until the battery ran low.
The starter won't engage right now like it did last night but if I push the Slam button in slowly the starter will grab the solenoid and turn over.
More investigation is needed on my part.
Any comments on this?
Mikeinjersey
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Call HDM about your rebuild kit question I'm sure they will know the correct answer.
Fully charge your battery before testing again. Should be 12.8 volts.
Disconnect the battery and pull the slam button and check your solder joint just to make sure it didn't break again. Then check or replace the spring. Push the plunger in with your finger several times to see if it's binding or the long spring is broken. Who knows maybe someone put a short or bad spring inside. Put it back together with the battery still disconnected and push the button in to ensure it still restores easily with no binds. If all looks and feels good connect the battery and use the start button to see what happens.
starter spins now when you hit the button? But basically it's not throwing the starter jackshaft out?
That is a different story, and it happens. It will work intermittently when the drive clutch starts to wear. Drive clutch is what throws the starter. You pulled the spring unless it's broken there isn't much to do, and considering it did start and now it doesn't spring length isn't the issue.
It sounds like it's time for a new starter, unfortunately. Technically you could buy a new drive clutch only and try that but at the end of the day the hassle and time isn't really worth it in my opinion vs new. Give me a call if you got any questions. 620-680-0395
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dang, that's an affordable price for the starter. I saw them for 375$ wtf?starter spins now when you hit the button? But basically it's not throwing the starter jackshaft out?
That is a different story, and it happens. It will work intermittently when the drive clutch starts to wear. Drive clutch is what throws the starter. You pulled the spring unless it's broken there isn't much to do, and considering it did start and now it doesn't spring length isn't the issue.
It sounds like it's time for a new starter, unfortunately. Technically you could buy a new drive clutch only and try that but at the end of the day the hassle and time isn't really worth it in my opinion vs new. Give me a call if you got any questions. 620-680-0395
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I'm going to run through MikeinJerseys suggestions. That spring looks bent and feels weak.
I'm so close to finding the issue!
chubs
Guru
If that sprig happened to contact the battery side contact when the battery was still hooked up, it could have been a direct short and got hot enough to take the temper out of it. You mentioned it looks bent and is "weak". the previous owner may have been in there and caused the problem when he was trying to figure it out . i'm not real sharp on the mechanical aspect of these things, but I'd almost bet you could pick up a new spring from any reputable bike shop. (or I could be totally wrong)
I found my issues.
My soldering broke and the spring is shot.
But both are easy fixes.
I did stop at my local Harley shop and they did not have a rebuild in stock. I will need to call HDM if I can't find a spring locally.
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Re-soldered and put the solenoid back in and it started right up, so I think to be 100% confident in this I would need a new spring.
And I really need a new spring now because I pulled on the spring a little bit and broke off a 1/2 inch of it, but it still works. I'm not trying to slam button for fear it'll stick again and run my battery all the way down.
I'm still happy though , like really freaking happy this works
I went out and started it 3 different times , just because...lol