Ehc rip install

Savage 1

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I have no idea on cost Bud, I've heard several hundred from others.

I rewired mine, so never absorbed the cost. It's time consuming and labor is expensive.

Maybe some of the other guys can chime in that have installed the RIP. Possibly it was designed with circuit protection and is plug and play. I have no idea, never installed RIP.
 

Rottweiler

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I haven't installed the RIP either. Do some more searching on here. I know people have used them. Not sure what is different between the older RIP and the new one.
 

Nwhicks21

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Here’s the instructions, I think I got most of it right… idk about the grey connector going into the white one and I have to hook up horn and fix starter, and I’m not real sure about the grey and black wire in the battery box, as well as the 3 O-ring wires that connect to the thing in the battery box
 

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Nwhicks21

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So according to the older thread you posted, the battery hot wire goes to the top post in the starter like I have here, the solenoid wire goes to the other #2 post. But what does the thick wire coming out of the harness go to and what does this other individual black wire go to?
 

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Mikeinjersey

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So according to the older thread you posted, the battery hot wire goes to the top post in the starter like I have here, the solenoid wire goes to the other #2 post. But what does the thick wire coming out of the harness go to and what does this other individual black wire go to?
Not sure what post you are referring but I looked a couple of the pics and its not clear what's up. In Pic 1770 is the stud the 3 wires are connected to part of the new EHC ? In pic 1772 it looks like you have a ground cable connected to the armature side of the starter and another cable attached to the top of the starter ( which should be + from the Battery). This would not be the proper way to connect the starter.
Assuming in pic 1792 the top cable goes to + side of the battery all you would need to add would be a cable from the mounting bolt of the starter up to the - (ground) side of the battery.
The green wire you see in both 1792 and 1770 is the input from the EHC to fire the solenoid which pulls in and connects the + side of the battery to crank the starter. You also have a slam button which is a manual way of making that same connection.
Img 1790 looks like it may be the original ground cable from the starter mounting bolt back to the - (ground) side of the battery.
Be sure to answer my first question. The large red cable looks like it will go to the + side of the battery and the smaller black wire probably comes from the VR. except that wire usually goes to the CB before it connects to the battery. Not sure about small red wires but maybe they are for the horn. Try to identify these wires before putting your battery back in as to avoid a smokefest.
 
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Savage 1

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My guess is 1791 is going from the solenoid back to the positive post of the battery Mike. Probably, the black wire was used in place of red because they didn't have red.....pure speculation.....
The individual black wire (1790) was the ground for the original starter and was attached to the mounting bolt, then to the negative battery post.
 
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Nwhicks21

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The button is just a force start bypass button. It will just bypass all the switches and engage the starter to eliminate all other electrical possibilities. Mike the pic and post I was referring to was the one savage posted as reference to an old post about starting issues, as I have the same issue and the pic if you click on that post that the guy drew showed what I’m referencing to. I have the battery POS hooked up to the top post on starter, the only wire hooked up to the armature is the solenoid wire.i just need to know where that single ground wire I listed a pic of goes, and the other wire coming out of the main harness, I assume goes with the positive wire on top post, and the other single black wire I showed in the pic probably goes from negative battery post to the starter mounting bolt? Is that correct? Also the red thing in the battery box behind the module that has a stud and the 3 wires I currently have connected to it, 1 has the inline fuse, I’m not sure if they are all correct and what’s supposed to go there
 

Nwhicks21

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I see why he is confused, the original solenoid is gone. It's a push button. My guess is the solenoid just has one hot to battery and one wire going from solenoid to the starter motor. On that style, you are eliminating the starter switch. No need for the small starter wire, because you are physically switching the solenoid with the button.

What starter motor is on it? Possibly the starter grounds itself through the case to the frame.

Can you see a part number on that solenoid?
Can you identify the starter motor?
2.0 kw eBay starter
 

Nwhicks21

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I just installed one of those starters on a Fatboy a couple months ago. I'll see if I can get the photos and you can match it to yours.
I did it for a friend to circumvent another issue with his starter button on handlebars. He didn't want to mess with the wiring, so he brought a push button solenoid for me to install.
I advised him against it because it was way too close to the pipe.
He wouldn't listen, just put it on. I said, happy burnt fingers and wiring this summer!
I bought it when I was still trying to troubleshoot, and I was under the impression that everything else still functioned normally, that the slam button just gave an override when needed?
 

Nwhicks21

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My guess is 1791 is going from the solenoid back to the positive post of the battery Mike. Probably, the black wire was used in place of red because they didn't have red.....pure speculation.....
The individual black wire (1790) was the ground for the original starter and was attached to the mounting bolt, then to the negative battery post.
correct, the wire in 90 is where I need to figure where it goes, the wire in 91 I believe is ground to mount bolt, and 92 is the positive terminal wire
 

Nwhicks21

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My guess is 1791 is going from the solenoid back to the positive post of the battery Mike. Probably, the black wire was used in place of red because they didn't have red.....pure speculation.....
The individual black wire (1790) was the ground for the original starter and was attached to the mounting bolt, then to the negative battery post.
I’m sorry, 91 is the one I meant I’m trying to determine where it goes…90 is the battery ground to mount bolt I think. And 92 is bat positive. Need to figure out 90 & 91 as well as the wires in the battery box on that stud of the red thing behind module
 

Nwhicks21

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I will make a video tomorrow after work if that helps, but the only 2 wires hooked up to the starter rn are the battery + (top stud) and the solenoid wire (I think) on the side armature stud. The single black wire not connected on either end I think is the battery - to starter mount, and the other wire in pic 92 is the alternator I would assume?… connects with battery + in the top stud?
 

Savage 1

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Starter Wiring 2006 Chopper

Take a look at this thread. Someone drew a diagram and someone else explained where each wire goes. See if it looks like your set up.

Generally, the green small wire goes to spade terminal from starter button.
One lug goes from solenoid to starter motor.
One lug goes to positive post on battery.
Ground wire goes from mounting bolt to the negative terminal on battery.

I assume the slam button is simply going to be for a back up. They create back EMF that can fly back up the circuit and damage the switch. Unless of course, you install a flyback diode across the terminals.
Another consideration is your compression reliefs. I assume they are connected to the starter circuit as well via the EHC.
So, starter should be wired normal. Slam button only used in emergency. Simply an extra added bypass for emergencies.

 
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Nwhicks21

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Savage that’s the one I’m talking about, you put that up earlier and I responded to you telling you that’s exactly like my issue, but according to that picture he drew, my positive wire is hooked to the top stud and my solenoid wire is hooked to the #2 stud
 

Mickmorris

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Is there a way I can send you video or post on here
Most people that post videos download it to YouTube then somehow share it here… I have yet to figure it out! Lol :oldhardlaugh:
HMAN can probably explain it to you. He definitely knows how to do it
 
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