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BWG56

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KaptinAmerika
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Lets just see if anyone has some pictures to add. Everyone wants the best ride possible. Heck I'm going out after work today and take a ride in a 200 mile circle through the beautiful Black Hills of south Dakota. Before the snow flies.

Can anyone share with the class and add pictures of the install. Type installed, any mods, comfort, etc

Thanks all
And as I test this and get more miles on the shocks what happens if I wanna change anything? Issue a recall if others have done it?
 

mittens

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I can take pics tonight, of a 2004 with 422s. If that helps. other wise if this is K9s only then I wont bother. just let me know today.

I have a "Pit as well" I can get some underside pics and stuff. But mine is older and Left side drive, and the K9s are right side so that may be the issue.
 
I can take pics tonight, of a 2004 with 422s. If that helps. other wise if this is K9s only then I wont bother. just let me know today.

I have a "Pit as well" I can get some underside pics and stuff. But mine is older and Left side drive, and the K9s are right side so that may be the issue.
Mittens, I'm sure everyone appreciates your input but the issue is a group insists that the 422s "Fit" BDs with the DSSC primary while others insist they don't "Fit". In a couple of instances, i.e. Pitbull due to a difference in the frame design, this might be possible but K9s and Mastiffs have the same frame, in terms of the transmission mount, and they do not "Fit". Requests have been put out several times to the ones swearing they "Fit" to explain or show proof, since the other side has attempted in a number of cases to install them only to find that it is physically impossible unless you do some type of major modification, but instead of helping who knows how many BD owners get into a set of shocks they desperately need the other side continues to insist they "Fit" but refuset to show "How" they fit. The only reason it rubs me the wrong way is I'm of the side that has physically tried to install them to a K9 and a Mastiff and without doing some kind of major change they do not "Fit". It's a physical impossibility due to a metal transmission support plate on the left side of the frame that is in direct path of the shock body, the 422, path between the front and rear mounts. If they're protecting a secret I get it but claiming they "Fit" is misleading and they should simply clarify that they have a way but it requires certain work that is otherwise not normally required.
 

41bigdawg

Let the Big Dawg eat !
Mittens, I'm sure everyone appreciates your input but the issue is a group insists that the 422s "Fit" BDs with the DSSC primary while others insist they don't "Fit". In a couple of instances, i.e. Pitbull due to a difference in the frame design, this might be possible but K9s and Mastiffs have the same frame, in terms of the transmission mount, and they do not "Fit". Requests have been put out several times to the ones swearing they "Fit" to explain or show proof, since the other side has attempted in a number of cases to install them only to find that it is physically impossible unless you do some type of major modification, but instead of helping who knows how many BD owners get into a set of shocks they desperately need the other side continues to insist they "Fit" but refuset to show "How" they fit. The only reason it rubs me the wrong way is I'm of the side that has physically tried to install them to a K9 and a Mastiff and without doing some kind of major change they do not "Fit". It's a physical impossibility due to a metal transmission support plate on the left side of the frame that is in direct path of the shock body, the 422, path between the front and rear mounts. If they're protecting a secret I get it but claiming they "Fit" is misleading and they should simply clarify that they have a way but it requires certain work that is otherwise not normally required.
Well said Brother :chopper:
 

dentdude36

Banned
CLEAR pictures of the installations and procedures involved would be a real good place to start. Until that happens, I would recommend listening to what Curtis has to say.
It’s been said over and over full disclosure at this time is not available until further testing is done. I’m sure most can understand that.
 

mittens

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SO these "guys" saying it works are not just normal guys that have a bike, and the shocks and making them work. they are developing a part. that's a lot different then saying hey it works, don't be scared.
 
All they had to say at the beginning is they fit with modification. But they wanted to make it sound like you could just go buy some and install them. After they were called out on it, now it's.....well you have to modify it and I'm not going to tell you how "I'm testing them"
I believe that has everyone up to speed and where were at right now.

P.S. Before I would purchase (or be given) anything from these loser's.....I'll buy a Ridgeback
 

mittens

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Saying they fit is true nobody said go out and buy them just yet
I disagree here.

SAying something fits, means it FITS with out modification. saying it can be made to fit o modified is different then the general term it fits.



If I was asked, does my a ring fit my finger and I answered yes, most would assume it FITs, no adjustments needed. Even by definition
verb
verb: fit; 3rd person present: fits; past tense: fitted; past participle: fitted; gerund or present participle: fitting
  1. 1.
    be of the right shape and size for.
If the ring was to big or to small then it by definition does not FIT.

just added fuel to the fire here. ha
 

pknowles

RETIRED
I will admit, I also thought after the original post there wouldn't be any modifications required. And it was just a Bolt on...considering there's only two holes and bolts for each shock didn't think about extras.

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I'm beginning to wonder if the ride will be that much different or better than a new set of "stock" shocks. After all, we are talking about a motorcycle here.

Whatever the case , I'm sure it's being feverishly worked on
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chubs

Guru
Bottom line. WITH modification they MAY fit and work. WITHOUT modification they won't fit. This would be a good point in time to just close this thread down. Just my opinion though.
 

Th3InfamousI

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I'm beginning to wonder if the ride will be that much different or better than a new set of "stock" shocks. After all, we are talking about a motorcycle here.
The guys that have them on the 04 And older models seem to like them but then again the stock shocks were probably worn out after the miles and years.

Worx is now Out Of Business, well been out of business last year. So not sure if anyone can even rebuild the ones we got.

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Th3InfamousI

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They CAN fit with modification...words are important here and how the confusion started. This an online forum and we are only allowed to read what people write.

I was confused myself, cause again we know 100% they fit 03-04 BigDogs there's plenty of guys that run them and can just buy them direct from progressive and Bolt on and go!

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It’s been said over and over full disclosure at this time is not available until further testing is done. I’m sure most can understand that.
LOL, uhm no I don't think it has or I am certain I would have seen it at some point along the way.
Now everyone else is a "15 yr old girl keyboard warrior" because they ask questions, get bullshit answers and the one giving the bullshit answers is butt hurt. Yeah I know, I know "I ain't butt hurt I don't give a damn what anyone else thinks".

It is always easier to just sit in the back of the room and watch, until you know your facts, and then speak up. Hell I'm guilty of not following that rule occasionally but at least I just admit it, shut the hell up and move on.

The only way to make the 422 shocks fit into a K9 or Mastiff frame is to cut the trans support bracket out on the left side. Hopefully their replacing it with something that maintains the integrity of the frame. A failed frame at 70 on the freeway could certainly ruin the rest of the life of whoever is responsible for having done that work.

We're kicking around making jigs here so we can break down the chrome shocks we sell and change the spring and oil weight, to better suit heavier riders, as well as possibly rebuilding the stock Worx shocks but we're slammed for months here with other projects, and no one is throwing money at us to do it.....lol, so don't count on us coming up with anything real soon. Between our Web site and web sales, BD service and repair and part manufacturing we have little to no time for anything else.
 

BWG56

Guru
Well maybe one day you guys will become believers.:chopper:

Especially after you see them on a K9 in the near future on FB if the other guy chooses to disclose it. Even though there was pics already shown with them on.

Some of the comments and name calling are exactly what I've expected to see.:old2:

When the new EHC was being developed the same negative comments where also being expressed and now the same person is selling them.
 

Dakotabos

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DAMN Cant leave you guys o have a civil conversation? Still no pictures. Just woke up to this. HA

I hope to see pictures of proof. I think its fact that it depends on model. Anyone that has them installed can you show. Everyone should know if you have to mod to make something fi do at your own risk. Hate to see someone hurt over saving a few bucks
 
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