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bruce

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had main shaft break at around 25000 miles, I took out and send in to baker. they rebuild it and did give me a deal because of shaft breaking. If I remember it was $350.00 total - new shaft, bearing, seals and they replaced some worn shift fingers. now have 40000 miles and working fine still.
 
I have over 50,000 miles on my 06 K9, half of that with a NON-EPA 138hp 124", and I am still on the same transmission with no leaks, no bearing failures and no shaft breakage. All this while riding it hard and weighing 300 plus.
I have however had my share of worn clutch packs, pulled out of round flanged hubs and a primary chain replacement......:D
 

Jwooky

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I have over 50,000 miles on my 06 K9, half of that with a NON-EPA 138hp 124", and I am still on the same transmission with no leaks, no bearing failures and no shaft breakage. All this while riding it hard and weighing 300 plus.
I have however had my share of worn clutch packs, pulled out of round flanged hubs and a primary chain replacement......:D
:2thumbs:impressive :2thumbs:
 
I believe Baker to be the premium Harley/Custom Bike drive train specialists out there.
It was BD forcing them to do hack work that has cost, at least back then not too sure about now, them some reputation.
 

BadDawg Bill

Well-Known Member
Its a good deal and your getting it done by the people that build them all day everyday.
Why didn't BD do it right the first time? For the $$ they got it's a shame... THEY didn't "force Baker" to do it wrong. THEY bought the parts and put it together themselves with cheap parts the same with S&S motors. My bike has a Jims trans case and who knows what gears and bearings in it. Shame on BD... The same with the engine bearings, TP heads, fork seals, wheel seals, the electrical system and the list goes on and on... If you face up to it and tell the truth we all got screwed...
 
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Why didn't BD do it right the first time? For the $$ they got it's a shame... THEY didn't "force Baker" to do it wrong. THEY bought the parts and put it together themselves with cheap parts the same with S&S motors. My bike has a Jims trans case and who knows what gears and bearings in it. Shame on BD... The same with the engine bearings, TP heads, fork seals, wheel seals, the electrical system and the list goes on and on... If you face up to it and tell the truth we all got screwed...
Not sure what I'm supposed to face up to and I've never told anything but the truth. I didn't "get screwed". I have an 06 K9, that I love, with over 50000 miles on it. I've had a few issues with it but not from anything BD did. I tell no lies when I say I have the same transmission now that I had when the bike was brand new with no repairs or rebuilds just regular maintenance. I have a 2nd EHC in the bike but only because the factory repaired the battery box in 2010 and they didn't put the wiring back correctly which led to a short that toasted the EHC, the ignition module and the annunciator board. I know numerous people with multiple thousands of miles on their BDs and they are happily continuing to motor down the road without issue. What I can say with utmost truth is that the more BDs I work on the more a few common threads keep surfacing such as buyers who were lied to about the true mileage of the bike and in many cases just how the bike was truly treated while the seller owned it, shops that know nothing about the BDs and proceed to do shit work to the bike, owners who have tampered with the bikes when they don't know what their doing. I see broken bikes due to these issues far more often than I see bikes that just magically broke for no reason or because of poor design or quality on BD's part, your experience may differ...:(
Having said the above I can't disagree with your statement completely as they most certainly allowed their customers to conduct the R&D for them, and at the customers cost, in far too many cases.
 

BadDawg Bill

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Not sure what I'm supposed to face up to and I've never told anything but the truth. I didn't "get screwed". I have an 06 K9, that I love, with over 50000 miles on it. I've had a few issues with it but not from anything BD did. I tell no lies when I say I have the same transmission now that I had when the bike was brand new with no repairs or rebuilds just regular maintenance. I have a 2nd EHC in the bike but only because the factory repaired the battery box in 2010 and they didn't put the wiring back correctly which led to a short that toasted the EHC, the ignition module and the annunciator board. I know numerous people with multiple thousands of miles on their BDs and they are happily continuing to motor down the road without issue. What I can say with utmost truth is that the more BDs I work on the more a few common threads keep surfacing such as buyers who were lied to about the true mileage of the bike and in many cases just how the bike was truly treated while the seller owned it, shops that know nothing about the BDs and proceed to do shit work to the bike, owners who have tampered with the bikes when they don't know what their doing. I see broken bikes due to these issues far more often than I see bikes that just magically broke for no reason or because of poor design or quality on BD's part, your experience may differ...:(
Having said the above I can't disagree with your statement completely as they most certainly allowed their customers to conduct the R&D for them, and at the customers cost, in far too many cases.
I should have said "IF WE face up to it" I didn't mean to direct anything towards you. You have always been fair to me and I have no doubt you are very honest. Sorry if you took it wrong. I was basically saying BD didn't force anyone to do shabby work they did it themselves to save money.
 

Jwooky

Well-Known Member
Did BDM force Baker to use crappy bearings? Is that even possible?

I don't think any responsible company would sign up to use parts that would not meet their requirements.
 
I should have said "IF WE face up to it" I didn't mean to direct anything towards you. You have always been fair to me and I have no doubt you are very honest. Sorry if you took it wrong. I was basically saying BD didn't force anyone to do shabby work they did it themselves to save money.
Can't argue with that.
 

woodbutcher

Mr. Old Fart member #145
Staff member
as with many companies, a cost per unit was agreed upon, and, in order to meet that cost per unit, corners had to be cut. parts were used that still met their standards, but sometimes, just barely. that is just the way companies have to do business in today's market to survive, unfortunately. and, ultimately, the end consumer is the one that has to pay the repair bill.
 
I still have trouble understanding the crappy bearing part as my trans bearings have withstood 50,000 plus miles of shit that I have thrown at them and no failures.
 

BadDawg Bill

Well-Known Member
I still have trouble understanding the crappy bearing part as my trans bearings have withstood 50,000 plus miles of shit that I have thrown at them and no failures.
This may be unpopular but if you go back and read Andrews posts he states the bearings BD used in building the Baker trans were Koran. He replaces them with USA made $60 bearings that last a life time.

You were lucky just look back at all the Trans problem posts. I can't count how many guys sent their trans to Andrew to repair them. Maybe somehow you got a "Real" Baker trans. As far as I know I've got a Jims trans. Who know what's inside it...

I also read where BD got S&S cases and they put them together. They also used Koran bearings and tried TP heads to save money. Who knows what jugs were used or crank shafts, pistons, rings, oil pumps etc. If it wasn't built by S&S using all their parts then it isn't a "real" S&S. Just because it says S&S on the cases don't make it so. The same with the Baker trans.

When I bought the dog the main reason I bought it was for the S&S motor and Baker trans. It seems like I got fooled... :rant:

I put over 200k on a S&S 107 motor with just 1 head rebuild. Some of the guys here are having problems at 20k or less. Something is different.
 
as with many companies, a cost per unit was agreed upon, and, in order to meet that cost per unit, corners had to be cut. parts were used that still met their standards, but sometimes, just barely. that is just the way companies have to do business in today's market to survive, unfortunately. and, ultimately, the end consumer is the one that has to pay the repair bill.
Too true.
Baker has said that the DSSC system barely met the HP requirements.
 

FrankBDPS

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I am like Bill,well at least in the transmission department. My bike dosent have a Baker so I don't care one way or the other. But it would be great if someone from Baker would come on here and explain some of these issues.
 
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