Guess I'm the guilty one of getting everyone off track about VRods vs Dogs when there was some interjection from some boys on how they were kicking the shit outta sport bikes. My humble apologies but damn it sure took off! My 05 Chopper was strong after I piped, cammed,air cleaner, took out carb resrictors,jetted, you get the picture. I ride hard and fast but still couldn't stay with some metric bikes that can pull 70 to 80 mph plus in 1st gear. Those boys are putting out 30 to 40 more ponies with 200 to 300 lbs less weight. Just the facts, but it is still fun to bench race and talk smack. It is all in fun and thats the way it should stay. JUST RIDE EM LIKE YOU STOLE IT. Doesnt matter what flavor you prefer.