Stolen ?

Marky-Marc

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If no money has change hands, then no crime has occurred. If he paid and has proof, now we have a deal. It's real easy to get copies of titles. The cell phone is registered to a woman. She lives with 4 others (3 guys) and lives in LA. She has two living addresses.. Hmmmmmmmmm.. Sounds fishy to me.. What do you think?
Even if he has a bill of sale and no money exchanged hands, you are correct, there is NO CRIME. He needs to prove he wired, or payed for the bike somehow via paypal, wire transfer, traveler's checks etc....
 

Marky-Marc

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does the buyer still have enough to prove fraud?
Herein lies the BAD news from my experience and I am NOT an attorney:

Money exchanged hands between the seller and buyer with bill of sale.
Seller is done unless buyer can prove seller was going to deliver bike to shipper.
If Seller has his CASH, leaves bike and it get's stolen or towed, he is generally NOT responsible for said vehicle anymore, so NOT liable. DMV or tow company calls him and he says, 'I sold the bike, here's the bill of sale....', he's done.

Now, if the SHIPPER promised to pick up the bike and didn't and it got towed, shipper would MAYBE be liable depending on the deal he made with buyer to pick up vehicle and said correspondence.

BAD DEAL.....
 

Marky-Marc

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No matter in what state or country I have lived, when I sold a vehicle I PULLED the plates. Seeing that the plates are still the same, it may have been towed and IF the tow company towed it, waited the time period, and FOLLOWED THE LAW while doing so, our brother in Sweden MAY be screwed.....
 
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