Open Primary

WB Cycles · Nov 20, 2007

TCALZ06 said:
yes, thats the one. I like the drag race style.
Does it come in chrome? Can you PM me a price polished and in chrome?

Here you go, check out Ultima's website for additional information on the actual drive:
http://www.ultimaproducts.com/beltdrive.htm

BILLET
Drag Race Style Belt Drive
Assembly, Polished
58-800 $1,016.25

BILLET
Drag Race Style Belt Drive
Assembly, Machine Finish only
58-801 $988.95

CAST
Drag Race Style Belt Drive
Assembly, Polished
58-700 $883.95

CAST
Drag Race Style Belt Drive
Assembly, Machined Finish only
58-730 $757.95

As of this afternoon I'm told that all are in stock.

TCALZ06 · Nov 21, 2007

Thanks I sent you a PM

Rick · Nov 23, 2007

So besides the cool factor what are the advantages of the open primary? I have the stock oil leaking through teh starter primary. Have given the dealer one more chance to fix the oil leak (bike is actually there now.) If is leaks again I am considering an open primary, but would like to know for the $1000 is there any other advantages besides more noise, and no oil?

P8RIOT · Nov 23, 2007

Ummm - new jeans on regular basis?

seatmaker · Nov 23, 2007

Didn't know I could do that. Always liked the look. Believe you can have a design put into the belt also, but again Gas beat me to it again. Don't want to look like a copy cat. Gas, let me know what you're not doing and I'll put it on mine.:loony: Rainman, no more messing with primary oil? Why's that? Educate me fellows.

BIG HOUSE · Nov 23, 2007

Seat how do I say open primary so its not gonna hold fluid its a dry belt:up:

117bigdog · Nov 23, 2007

where can you find an rmd?

CCRainman · Nov 23, 2007

P8RIOT said:
Ummm - new jeans on regular basis?

Now that's a fact, I'm going out to buy jeans as we speak because I've ripped a couple of pairs already. Between the exhaust and the belt I don't know what is worst.

CCRainman · Nov 23, 2007

seatmaker said:
Didn't know I could do that. Always liked the look. Believe you can have a design put into the belt also, but again Gas beat me to it again. Don't want to look like a copy cat. Gas, let me know what you're not doing and I'll put it on mine.:loony: Rainman, no more messing with primary oil? Why's that? Educate me fellows.

Scott, the belt is dry. There is no fluid involved as where your primary is swimming in gear oil and is chain driven. The belt is dry and opened and no oil to mess with. You save money on fluid, clutch can be serviced without the fuss of opening the primary up and you loose some weight. How can you go wrong with all these pros. Besides looking good

seatmaker · Nov 23, 2007

Gotcha, I was thinking the belt was already in there. Got some learning to do eh? Is this something that I could do myself or should I take it over to Gas's house?

Chopper Dave · Nov 23, 2007

seatmaker said:
Gotcha, I was thinking the belt was already in there. Got some learning to do eh? Is this something that I could do myself or should I take it over to Gas's house?

take it over to Gas's house Scott :up:

TCALZ06 · Nov 23, 2007

sulconst2 said:
wont fit your 07 BD with the dssc set-up. only the RMD, karata or baker fit our 05 and up BD's. IMO

Thanks Sul, One of the shops I called for installation thought it wouldn't fit
I want one that has the bearing support but not a solid plate so that from the side it looks like an open belt drive

Gas Man · Nov 25, 2007

Rick said:
So besides the cool factor what are the advantages of the open primary? I have the stock oil leaking through teh starter primary. Have given the dealer one more chance to fix the oil leak (bike is actually there now.) If is leaks again I am considering an open primary, but would like to know for the $1000 is there any other advantages besides more noise, and no oil?

CC Rainman said:
Scott, the belt is dry. There is no fluid involved as where your primary is swimming in gear oil and is chain driven. The belt is dry and opened and no oil to mess with. You save money on fluid, clutch can be serviced without the fuss of opening the primary up and you loose some weight. How can you go wrong with all these pros. Besides looking good

Like Rain says, no more leaking starters and shit. But it definately isn't a $1000. Almost 3 times that!!!

seatmaker said:
Didn't know I could do that. Always liked the look. Believe you can have a design put into the belt also, but again Gas beat me to it again. Don't want to look like a copy cat. Gas, let me know what you're not doing and I'll put it on mine.:loony: Rainman, no more messing with primary oil? Why's that? Educate me fellows.

Hey you can copy... I'll ever help. Just don't copy everything, please.

117bigdog said:
where can you find an rmd?

http://www.rmdbillet.com/

And you can order it from Pink Chopper.

Chopper Dave said:
take it over to Gas's house Scott :up:

Bring it over... anybody can... we'll get it done.

TCALZ06 · Nov 25, 2007

How many hours should it take for a shop to put one on?
I was just told 6-7 hrs at $65/hr

Gas,
Is the install straight forward, good instructions ect on the RMD?
Was their any certain reason besides looks that made you pick RMD?

Thanks

CCRainman · Nov 26, 2007

TCALZ06 said:
How many hours should it take for a shop to put one on?
I was just told 6-7 hrs at $65/hr

Gas,
Is the install straight forward, good instructions ect on the RMD?
Was their any certain reason besides looks that made you pick RMD?

Thanks

TCal, don't let those stealers do it. Save the money for more bling. Like Blitz said, it's an easy install about 2-3 hours tops. Just make sure you have all the proper tools. If you have the correct tools, it'll be a sinch. Make sure you have a strong impact gun and the right sockets. Oh yeah Loc Tite.

Gas Man · Nov 26, 2007

TCALZ06 said:
How many hours should it take for a shop to put one on?
I was just told 6-7 hrs at $65/hr

Gas,
Is the install straight forward, good instructions ect on the RMD?
Was their any certain reason besides looks that made you pick RMD?

Thanks

I have yet to do my install, it will be a while longer for sure. I still need to get the parts, and do the complete rebuild of the chop first. I'm not sure about the instructions... will see when I get it.

I got the RMD cause they make it specifically for the RSD big dogs. Plus it comes chrome vs polished. And it comes with a Banditt clutch.

Stone Cold · Jan 13, 2008

Will the Ultima fit my '04 Ridgeback? Anybody know what size spacer I'll need?

Fibersnake · Jan 13, 2008

It may have been mentioned on here already and if so Bad on me,

One of the things to keep in mind with an open belt primary is that the belt and pulleys are exposed to the elements. If you get a rock or some other item that gets thrown up from the road and between the belt and pulley, it can and has happened many times of having the teeth of the pulley get damaged as well as tearing up the belt.

Also you need to be careful with the leg around the pulley (they hurt when you get the pant leg snagged-don't ask how I know).

Many advantages but there is some disadvantages also to be fully aware of. One thing for sure, a nice open primary is always an attention getter, especially if you have a custom painted belt!!!

ronin1r1 · Aug 8, 2016

Can anyone out there tell me if I can use the Ultima 58 - 730 Open primary on my 05 Mastiff? Mine is leaking oil through the starter Drive and I would like to go open belt anyways.

Th3InfamousI · Aug 8, 2016

ronin1r1 said:
Can anyone out there tell me if I can use the Ultima 58 - 730 Open primary on my 05 Mastiff? Mine is leaking oil through the starter Drive and I would like to go open belt anyways.

Nope ...only baker or karata will bolt up. The inner primary back plate is not the same

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