How-To Understand the Penultimates 101

Sven

Well-Known Member
There are 3 components to the bike:

Wires - The Father of the Truth Table is Ohms and his Laws.

FI - The Penultimate number is 14.7 or 1 atmosphere.

Black Box - The Penultimate number is 2.
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Wiring; has to be thought of as one single wire. That means the jobber in the middle too. Take a coil for example. No matter what that coil wire looks like inside, it began as one single wire. When one wire goes to the key switch, the other to ground, it still reads as ground into jobber (coil) out to the key switch or that jobber.

The 3 variables are as simple as this:
1. Not Connected.
2. Short to ground.
3. Signal is out of range.

The penultimates are set in stone. They are the golden variables in the basics. You cannot dispute them. Those are your 3 starting points. Who is doing watt? There: is no current/too much/not enough. Match the currents, you have begun your journey looking for whom on the bike? This concludes the wiring of the diagnosing of 1 section of 3.
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Fuel Injection; is the jobber between today's atmospheric pressure and the ECU or black box. With the parameter inputs, the computer can deliver an on/off type of signal called a, 'duty cycle.' For man to mimic the carburetor, he is handcuffed to the atmosphere. What happens if a wire from a jobber, meaning, a sensor between those wires happen to fall within the 3 wire variables? The fuel is now sent as a default number, or a way of safely sending the bike home to repair that jobber from end to end and its center, meaning the sensor and a signal out of range, etc.

To understand fuel injection in its very first basic move, you now have the golden number to support every move the fuel makes and that number converts to 760mmHg. That number converts to 101.3. That says to take your pick of the Penultimate number it still means 0. This ends the second main section of the bike, sans a rolling chassis and engine.
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ECU; stands for 'I can Electronically Count Units of Frequencies.' We have now come full circle to closing the loop of all 3 components of the electrical part of the bike. Our black box is nothing more than a volts counter and can narrow it down to microseconds, down to the millisecond, down to the nanosecond and it's endless how much they'll find next.

There are circuit boards, mini boards, motherboards, but they all have the same Penultimate number and that is 2. Simple but yet so complex. Bi means binary in machine speak. The ECU is a converter of numbers, i.e., frequencies. The ECU is a jobber and its job is to execute a pre-written program in computer code like C or C++ the high school kids learn and then write a hack of a program.

Getting back to the basics, notice how 760 is an octal number, 14.7 is a decimal number, the processing has to convert these numbers down to an 8-bit number called a byte. That is basically watt the box is converting... Frequencies that have a binary number that needs to be converted to.

A VOES spits out decimals so the conversion begins with complex formula that go thru something called, "Truth Tables" and must 'Satisfy' the math. Now that we have the sensor out or say the VOES fails, we now gather the crank speed time and the 14.7 decimal number, table the "best" [math compromise] of those two variables to set the duty cycle.

Welcome to the limp, the backuplan, the VOES Removers. You can now catch the limpcycles out there, because if you can figure out a few computer steps, you first need the 4 Penultimates to make it all work in undisputed steps.
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Bring forth another number or do you agree?

Ohm = 3 (steps to find 3)
Wires = 3 (are the variables)
FI = 14.7 psi (nature's handcuffing)
ECU = 2 (binary or machine speak in 1' and 0's)

:loony: Think it out or be lost in the diagnosis. :bang:

:up:

 

francoblay1

The Spaniard
I am quite sure he is using it as one of the many derivations from terms as; antepenultimate, penultimately, preantepenultimate, propenultimate, propreantepenultimate. Or related termas as; penult or ultimate. :up:

:cheers:
 

Sven

Well-Known Member
Sven, will you please give me your definition of "penultimate"? I ask because it doesn't seem to agree with any reference source I can find... :confused:

Dennis
I think the key word that Franco pointed out was 'ultimate.'

So there is no disputing THE-Ultimate Number... is how it works you are handcuffed to.

For example, in Ohm's law, there are 3 variables that equal each other. The math is indisputable... 1 amp = 1 ohm = 1 volt. We bring in watt, it starts to become complex in formula, but the ultimate number(s) means a balance.

'Almost' and 'last' means, to walk the steps, you almost have to use each ultimate number and show it as the last step, you can start from the reversengineering of it to make sense out of it.

They are ultimate steps where you could start in the middle (coil) and work your way to (-) ground, or to (+) the battery. You could start at (+) and end at (-). Start at (-) and end at (+). Which means, even the steps finding that variable have a reverse approach x's 3 ways.

Take the 3amigos for example:

Fuel - Spark - Compression are the 3 variables that cause the engine to run or not. I would say compression is the Penultimate of the 3. Why? You can have spark and you can have fuel, but without compression checked first, you are 'almost' sure to chase your tail, when you finally check compression 'last,' is how many time do you throw parts at it and she still won't run?

Defined another way of using penultimate is the ultimate basics of finding watt amigo is taking a sea yes da(ta), or compression loss, or is out of gas.

Make sense a little bit more now, D?
 

Diesel Dan

Well-Known Member
I am quite sure he is using it as one of the many derivations from terms as; antepenultimate, penultimately, preantepenultimate, propenultimate, propreantepenultimate. Or related termas as; penult or ultimate. :up:

:cheers:


I think your right Franco........:2thumbs: THE SVEN-ANATOR IS BACK:lol:
 

RoadRider

Active Member
I tried very hard to understand, I guess I'm just not smart enough. :confused:
I would love to hear Sven order a steak dinner. :lol:
 

DRBarnhart

Insert title here...
I tried very hard to understand, I guess I'm just not smart enough. :confused:
Try reading it again but substitute the word "ultimate" or "last". "Penultimate" means "next to last", "ultimate" means "last, or final". The whole explanation makes more sense if you use the correct terminology although I still think a good portion of it is questionable at best.
I would love to hear Sven order a steak dinner. :lol:
Not if you wanted to eat today and make sure you actually got steak!!!! :eek:

Dennis
 

Sven

Well-Known Member
I tried very hard to understand, I guess I'm just not smart enough.
BS. You might be making it too hard. If DR can find another number to replace the 'ultimate' numbers; then he is much smarter than Mr. Ohm; has the ohm wheel beat another way; so where is his formula let alone the 3 variables you divide, multiply, and so on. My bet is he can't.

A light bulb has watt? A wall socket with 2 prongs. Hook it up to the wall or battery posts, watt we see is the 60 or 100-what if you use the filament as the jobber or the resistor? That is one continuous wire from the wall and back to the wall. Either it is not plugged in, a wire cut internally you can't see or the filament is blown. 3 simple variables you apply to the bike. (+)Wire-Jobber-Wire(-). Was that any easier you know the basics and play that theory to the house too?

The 3amigos are about ready to become bandits and steal one of the BBQ parts? Fuel is the black coal. Compression to keep it burning is the atmosphere and spark to light that puppy UP. I bought us steaks, I ordered ground beef?

Hot Dog! How about that ECU? YOu don't want to get me started, but does any of it bring a number up that if DR did bring in another ultimate, the pen will show him the truth-tables he cannot get out of: he brings in another number(s) to replace the ultimate(s). I did not make the rules. Nature does.
 

Sven

Well-Known Member
DRBarnhart;598428 I still think a good portion of it is questionable at best.[/QUOTE said:
DB, RoadRider is going to see your portion of the questionable areas you think are not valid? It sure looks like the shop manuals use the same numbers. Where are they wrong, because I'm just the messenger.

No one taught me this. I figured it out on my own. I'd like to read your abstract to the 3 subjects I've pointed out. I want it as clear as possible for someone like RR. He was honest... I respect that. He needs a little something. Maybe a little more insight from the gallery might get him on the same page.

It's all about the bike for me. A game of diagnosing those bandits. :up:
 

RoadRider

Active Member
how about, Wires -ether they are connected, not connected or shorted.
Fuel injection- It supplies fuel every time the ECU says to.
ECU the electrical brain that controls EVERYTHING
By gosh I think I just made it ever so easy.
Steak ,medium rare baked Potato with the works.
 

Little-Boo

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Troop Supporter
I know nothing about watts or ohms. What I do know is that I am a fuse and I like that because you can blow me and I'll still be able to function :lol::lol::roll:

Carlos :lol: :lol:
 
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