Worn clutch basket…repairable?

[Nwhicks21]

Plastic between the sprocket and chain? Everything made sense but you lost me there…

 

[Rottweiler]

I believe he taking about the primary chain

 

[knothead]

 

[JohnBoy]

I have used an old steel plate and friction plate welded an old extension to it and an old broken breaker bar to that so no block rag wood and no need to hold rear brake. Breaker bar sits on the ground. This was on my pan and Shovelheads

 

[Nwhicks21]

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Gotcha, now I see what your saying!

 

[Nwhicks21]

The instructions aren’t very clear, can one of you confirm maybe?… golden spectra 80 weight gear lube for the primary with new bandit clutch, and to wet the friction plates, or golden spectra heavy duty primary oil?

 

[Rottweiler]

Gear lube sounds to heavy. Alot of people use ATF

 

[Nwhicks21]

Yea it kinda threw me off bc bandit recommends the spectro sae80 but it says for 2 stroke wet clutches, and this is a dry clutch system right? I see a lot of conflicting arguments if what ppl use, I have a bunch of V twin primary fluid, but it says don’t run Harley fluid in it, so I’m confused and just don’t want to mess anything up. Curtis told me he uses atf or Lucas primary fluid. So I can just take a quart of any ATF fluid, wet the frictions and use the remainder of the quart to fill up my primary or just use the ATF for the clutch plates and regular primary fluid to fill up the primary?

 

[Mickmorris]

Yea it kinda threw me off bc bandit recommends the spectro sae80 but it says for 2 stroke wet clutches, and this is a dry clutch system right? I see a lot of conflicting arguments if what ppl use, I have a bunch of V twin primary fluid, but it says don’t run Harley fluid in it, so I’m confused and just don’t want to mess anything up. Curtis told me he uses atf or Lucas primary fluid. So I can just take a quart of any ATF fluid, wet the frictions and use the remainder of the quart to fill up my primary or just use the ATF for the clutch plates and regular primary fluid to fill up the primary?

You can soak the plates in atf type f fluid & use the remaining in your primary case if desired. I use Lucas chain oil in the primary on my bikes. But there’s a broad spectrum of options

 

[Mickmorris]

Yea it kinda threw me off bc bandit recommends the spectro sae80 but it says for 2 stroke wet clutches, and this is a dry clutch system right? I see a lot of conflicting arguments if what ppl use, I have a bunch of V twin primary fluid, but it says don’t run Harley fluid in it, so I’m confused and just don’t want to mess anything up. Curtis told me he uses atf or Lucas primary fluid. So I can just take a quart of any ATF fluid, wet the frictions and use the remainder of the quart to fill up my primary or just use the ATF for the clutch plates and regular primary fluid to fill up the primary?

Do you have a chain or a belt in your primary case? If chain wet system/ belt dry system. The atf/chain oil is to keep the chain cool. Don’t know what year your bike is but don’t overfill the primary case. 32oz in ‘94 & older. 22ozs in ‘95 & newer

 

[Nwhicks21]

Chain, but I’m told this is the same clutch used in open primaries?

 

[JohnBoy]

Use one or the other don't mix

 

[Mickmorris]

Chain, but I’m told this is the same clutch used in open primaries?

Maybe. Not super sure that is correct info. Most open primaries have their own clutch baskets and clutch packs.

 

[HMAN]

Ima fan of ATF type F cause its always available n usually cheaper. Makes pulling primary cover less expensive. Jmo

 

[Nwhicks21]

Maybe. Not super sure that is correct info. Most open primaries have their own clutch baskets and clutch packs.

Curtis at wsw says it’s the exact same frictions

 

[Sven]

As stated above: Chain is wet. Belt is dry. Frictions are used in automatic automotive transmissions. So ATF would work along with the oil being safe for the chain.

Pour enough to submerge the lower chain rung. Splash is the type lube, and the oil pump is a pressure lube. Pressure is forced out of the crank thru the big end rods, flings up against the cylinder walls that convert to a splash lube.

Wet sump (lubes eng/trans) is a recurring lube for pressure thru the clutch/output shaft, and lubricates the plates thru fling/splash. Dry sump (remote oil tank) cannot pressure lube thru the clutch/output shaft so this is semi-splash sort of speak. Plates remain more dry for lack of shaft being lubed off the trans oil. Trans lubes the freewheeling sleeve (for a better term) and has a seal over the output shaft.

Way too many anal thoughts about who/which oil to use. I mix ATF and HD primary oil and see no damage using this mix. I fallacy fix my own R&D work as to what works. I mix engine oils too... forever. Haven't lost an engine yet. Oil filters are debris free.

Follow the herd or figure it out on your own.

 

[Nwhicks21]

So I’ve got past that, but now I have encountered another problem. After assembling and testing deflection of the clutch, one side is deflecting more than the other. I have taken it apart and tried without the shims under springs and same thing, I’ve examined all the hard parts and see no debris in there. So what could be causing this? Is it normal to expect this with the slight wear I had in my clutch basket, or could it be bc of me using a file and trying to smooth out the tops of the teeth where it has ridges…maybe I didn’t file it down perfectly evenly or something? I would think that removing material from the top of every tooth, would make them move MORE freely if anything, since I’m giving more room for the frictions? Or could it just be bc I didn’t file into the and is just getting hung up there? Best case scenario I’m hoping is maybe I didn’t press the actuator rod button all the way into the throw out bearing in the pressure plate causing it to tilt the pressure plate when engaging clutch and pressure is applied to the button…. Who knows. I am over it, calling it a night and if can’t figure it out tomorrow I’m setting this mother fucker on fire. This is so fuckn frustrating man…I hate this bike.

 

[Rottweiler]

Sounds like one side is dragging. Is it always the same side.