Zero oil pressure - But what is this?

[BadBrad]

See Marv? Avidhunter painted a simple picture that explained how this could happen. I know that the valve guide extends down the head towards the piston but I thought the spring side was flat where the valve enters.

BTW, my wife enjoyed the YouTube as much as me, maybe more. I'm from Brooklyn.........MS. She's from NYC and we both live in Louisiana same as Avdhunter. Haven't met either of you guys, but hope we get to ride together one day.

 

[05chop]

BADBRAD--My wife says I don't listen--- John was saying that this piece of metal could of traveled by oil draining down the pushrod cover tubes then sucked by the pump. The metal piece would have to work its way out of the coil spring then travel down with the oil which is very possible! Your answer to the mid valve breakage is IMO Run a magnet down the valve stem you reach a point where the magnet wont stick! This is where the valve is friction welded together. When you see a breakage here it from a bad weld or running the valve set to loose. When john and marv speak we all listen. 05chop

 

[avdhunter]

we both live in Louisiana same as Avdhunter. Haven't met either of you guys, but hope we get to ride together one day.

Look forward to it........ just please leave the chaps and penis protector at the house!!!!!:roll::roll::roll::roll:

 

[BadBrad]

BADBRAD--My wife says I don't listen--- John was saying that this piece of metal could of traveled by oil draining down the pushrod cover tubes then sucked by the pump. The metal piece would have to work its way out of the coil spring then travel down with the oil which is very possible! Your answer to the mid valve breakage is IMO Run a magnet down the valve stem you reach a point where the magnet wont stick! This is where the valve is friction welded together. When you see a breakage here it from a bad weld or running the valve set to loose. When john and marv speak we all listen. 05chop

First off, wipe your nose off Chop. That was disgusting! I have come to read postings from certain members very close. Buying 2 used Dogs at the same time forced me into learning as much as I can, as fast as I can. Certain members have really stepped up to the plate and helped me more than you can imagine. Actually, you probably can imagine. Marv is a member that makes a lot of sense and it's obvious he's a top notch mechanic......or plays on TV. I "listen" to everyone. YOu have too! It's hard to diagnose problems unless you've had the exact same problem. Even then, if you're not there, you're still taking a guess. Someone on here has the right answer. I'll bet even John and Marv aren't always right.....just ask'em. But you can bet your ass I'll follow a lead from someone like Marv before I do others that I'm unfamiliar with......Until tonight, I didn't have a clue who John is.....Where are you John? Been talking about you all night. Live and learn!

 

[Raywood]

Live and learn!

I pm'd you Brad.

 

[mobsta]

nothing wrong with a sporty man.sold my pumped up sporty to a friend,still running hard,trouble free,winning awards and beats the crap out of my dog.

 

[john sachs]

Brad,
Dude,before you start talking shit,get familiar with what you're talking about.......... :loony:

AVDHUNTER,and 05 Chop got it.
Of course,without having the piece in my hand,it's hard to tell.So yes,I could be wrong,but from what I see,my GUESS would be what I posted,given the problems that have been showing up with the guides.
John

 

[BadBrad]

C'mon John. Loosen up. The reason I'm on here is to become more familiar with Big Dogs. Until last night, I didn't realize that the valve guides extend in both directions. I've seen the piston side of the head and the guide the protrudes from that side but have not removed a valve spring to see that it also extends up. Had I known that, I would have to say that your comment was dead on but not knowing that, I couldn't figure out how a piece of guide would travel from under the head to the oil pump. Hell, we can't start out knowing everything, so I'll keep asking stupid questions until I get more familiar and then I'm sure I'll still ask stupid questions on occasions. As far as "talking shit", I'm just on here having fun and trying to keep my repair expenses to a minimum. Don't get your panties in a wad! These guys on here talk about you as if you're royalty, so you definitely have my respect. Don't be haten!

 

[ChopperJeff]

WOW, sure hope I hear soon from my mechanic and get the details of what happened in my engine so we can all put this thing to bed!

I'm thinking now may be the time to have the TP top end changed to S&S. What's involved in this process? I thought there was a "how-to" on this, but I couldn't find it.

 

[ChopperJeff]

Oh, I'm also looking at going to the 600 cam.

For those who are curious, I've already got the restrictor plates removed (actually bored out bigger as I couldn't locate the "replacement" for it), and a XXX carb (super 'E'), plus Bassani pipes and K&N air filter. Oh yeah, and 57,000 miles.

 

[BadBrad]

With my newly acquired knowledge, I would like to recant on my previous assumption and have to agree with John on this. I may be stupid, but I'm not ignorant. No hard feelings John?

 

[BadBrad]

Now on the other hand, Marv, that YouTube video was just downright wrong........but funny as hell! :roll::roll:

And I really do have brown chaps! Honest

 

[BadBrad]

WOW, sure hope I hear soon from my mechanic and get the details of what happened in my engine so we can all put this thing to bed!

I'm thinking now may be the time to have the TP top end changed to S&S. What's involved in this process? I thought there was a "how-to" on this, but I couldn't find it.

Once again, I have just enough knowledge about this to be dangerous. From what I understand, the bolt pattern on top of the S&S rocker box is different from the TP, but the baseplate that bolts to the head is the same, so I assume it's a simple exchange and bolt up. Some of these other guys can tell you for sure.

 

[chaingunner]

brad,

john sachs has more S&S motor knowledge than ANYONE on this forum.

i'd say that deserves respect. unless of coarse you dont want his input when your in need.

dope or dog food dont fall into that category. IMO


YouTube - Bad Boy Brad Gets A New Bike

That was some funny shit!:2thumbs:

Brad,
Dude,before you start talking shit,get familiar with what you're talking about.......... :loony:

AVDHUNTER,and 05 Chop got it.
Of course,without having the piece in my hand,it's hard to tell.So yes,I could be wrong,but from what I see,my GUESS would be what I posted,given the problems that have been showing up with the guides.
John

Agree! I know John has personally offered his help and I took advantage of it. (I didn't have a breather gear)

Good luck with your findings.

 

[john sachs]

No hard feelings,and I "ain't" no better,or smarter than anyone else on this forum.
I will say,TP rocker boxes,on S&S heads,will bite you sooner or later. :bang:I've fixed a bunch of them.
John

 

[MARV]

I'm thinking now may be the time to have the TP top end changed to S&S. What's involved in this process? I thought there was a "how-to" on this, but I couldn't find it.

just need S&S TC rocker boxes (both lower and upper as a set), roller rockers (S&S or Jims) with rods, and a gasket kit.

get the SSW+ service manual plus a good tq wrench (inch and foot lbs) and its a at home garage job.

hardest part is adjusting the pushrods

 

[Raywood]

just need S&S TC rocker boxes (both lower and upper as a set), roller rockers (S&S or Jims) with rods, and a gasket kit.

get the SSW+ service manual plus a good tq wrench (inch and foot lbs) and its a at home garage job.

hardest part is adjusting the pushrods

If you go with the .600 cam you will need the new spring kit as your 05 doesn't have the "red stipe" springs or at least mine doesn't.

 

[Doug G]

Raywood,
I'm not going to pretend I know much about motors, but John at Beezers, a well respected wrench here in MI pointed out that the red strip springs are really not that great. I'm running a 600 cam with the red strip springs and he suggested replacing the double wound red strip springs with triple wound springs. I would like to replace the 600 with a 640 and I'll definetly have to bump up the springs anyways. John is the first person I ever heard disagree with the red strip spring not being heavy enough, any thoughts?

 

[Raywood]

Raywood,
I'm not going to pretend I know much about motors, but John at Beezers, a well respected wrench here in MI pointed out that the red strip springs are really not that great. I'm running a 600 cam with the red strip springs and he suggested replacing the double wound red strip springs with triple wound springs. I would like to replace the 600 with a 640 and I'll definetly have to bump up the springs anyways. John is the first person I ever heard disagree with the red strip spring not being heavy enough, any thoughts?

I only know what's been posted here by those that have changed cams. In my case I don't have the red strips and they won't support the .600 cam like the red strip springs are suppose to. But if you are going with the .640 it doesn't apply anyway.

 

[MARV]

Raywood,
I'm not going to pretend I know much about motors, but John at Beezers, a well respected wrench here in MI pointed out that the red strip springs are really not that great. I'm running a 600 cam with the red strip springs and he suggested replacing the double wound red strip springs with triple wound springs. I would like to replace the 600 with a 640 and I'll definetly have to bump up the springs anyways. John is the first person I ever heard disagree with the red strip spring not being heavy enough, any thoughts?

this is confusing as S&S 640 red stripe springs are triple wound spring pack with .640" lift.


got them in mine with a 640 cam.