World Class Customer Service @ BD Factory

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antvalentin

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I felt this was worth my time to share and worth your time to read so enjoy!

I started a thread a few days ago inquiring about the trail on my 05 Ridgeback. I received some good responses but none that gave me a definitive answer and I was mostly interested in finding out what BD says the trial should be straight off the production line.

On a mission to quench my insatiable thirst for knowledge on the workings of my front end, I decided to send a message to the BD customer service dept using the BD website. To my surprise I received an answer back from Anne Dixon “On behalf of Customer Service” 1st thing this morning. And by the way, when I say “on Behalf of Customer Service”, her email address read exactly like this: mailto:Anne.Dixon@bigdogmotorcycles.com] On Behalf Of Customer Service Dept (I can’t make this crap up). Anyway here is how the email conversation went. You may find this entertaining…

My Original question: Can you please tell me what the trail is on a standard 05 Ridgeback with
no mods done to it?

Anne Dixon’s Response: 37 deg frame rake, 3 deg in the trees

My Response: Thanks for your reply but you provided me with the overall rake of the front end
of my bike. I was looking for the trail – not the rake.

Anne Dixon’s Response: I do not have that info

My Response: Thanks for your candor, is there someone there who you can ask that may
have the answer? It would be very helpful to me. Thanks in advance

Anne Dixon’s Response: No

Now, some of you may know who Anne is and she is probably a sweet lady. I don’t know her and I am certainly not sharing this with all of you to make Anne sound like an idiot but is this what we can expect when we have questions or need information on the machines that we purchased for tens of thousands of dollars? I mean, If Anne isn’t qualified to answer my questions then why is she trying? Look, I don’t expect everyone who works there to know the trail for all of the bikes that ever rolled of the factory floor but maybe, just maybe someone knows someone that has access to a freakin book or a computer or a damn post it note that has the specs on ALL of our bikes in it.

So I have not responded because I am a little unsure of what kind of response this really deserves. I mean, I thought I was pretty clear in my original question on what I was looking for and the thought that there isn’t one person left at BD that she could ask that might know what trail is, is sad.

Am I off base here?
 

mobsta

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i dont think your off base at all,i have a similar story,when i ordered a frame from west coast choppers my favorite builder and still is,i asked what over stock frt end i would need for the frame i was told cant tell you insurance reasons per the owner,i canceled my order,maybe i should no the answer but being my first total build i asked for help,i just dont get their no help attitude,sorry or your trouble,good luck:cheers:
 

outdoorsman26

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i dont think you are!! :confused:30 sum grand for a bike and when you ask the company that built that bike a simple question and they cant answer it:job::job:............... ridiculous!!!:down:

maybe try a dealer and see if they can get a better response????:confused:
 

f-okie

AllGaveSome-SomeGaveAll
I don't think you are off base at all. I had a issue with a set of the saddle bags for the k9, I spent MONTHS with tons of emails and phone calls. I ended up getting totally pissed, loaded my bike in the trailer, and headed to the factory. Sat on there doorstep until someone could/would help me. It's sad for things to happen this way-while I was there waiting, all anyone wanted to do was try and sell me another bike....:bang::bang:
 

antvalentin

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i dont think you are!! :confused:30 sum grand for a bike and when you ask the company that built that bike a simple question and they cant answer it:job::job:............... ridiculous!!!:down:

maybe try a dealer and see if they can get a better response????:confused:
The dealship I bought it from was supposedly the only factory owned BD dealership in the US. All they sold were BD bikes and parts. It was in Costa Mesa, CA. They had a great service department and a group of guys working there that you can count on to get you what you needed - any time you needed it.

They closed it in October, 2009.
 

MARV

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use a string, level and tape measure and figure it out

or you could just whine about it. :rant:
 

antvalentin

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use a string, level and tape measure and figure it out

or you could just whine about it. :rant:

Apparently, you missed the point of my post or maybe you are kin to Anne. Either way, I wont hold it against you.

The rest of the members who responded got the main idea of my post... But thanks for playing! :up:
 

mobsta

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i threw a guy out of my alignment shop with a string,level and a tape measure:loony::lol::whoop:
 

antvalentin

Member
Again, how to go about measuring the trail on my own has nothing to do with my original question to BD nor is it the reason for my post. If anyone is confused about that - read the subject of the thread.

To clarify, I wanted to know what BD list as the standard trail for an 05 Ridgeback.

What Mr. Marv fails to realize is that I could have chopped up my front end and added more rake to the neck OR installed a longer front end or whatver. Any of those mods would change the trail on my bike and thus, would be different than what BD says an 05 Ridgeback's trail should be.

I dont have any information that supports Marv's claim about using string, a level and a tape measure as being an effective way to figure out the trail. Nor do I have information that rejects it. Frankly, I dont care because it's simply not the point of this thread.
 
That very well could be info they don't give out to the public.
Vegas you may have a point here, but where is the customer service, if this info is not for public knowledge than find a real nice way to put it as not to loose a customer, customer service 101 don't loose the customers you have !
:cheers:
 

antvalentin

Member
Agreed! Thats all I'm saying.. How about this? "I'm sorry sir, but that is information that we are not allowed to give out due to _______________. I appologize for any inconvenience that this may cause you"

Simple and respectable. If we all answered "no" to evey person that posts questions on this site, and never extended any type of cortesy to one another, there would be no site. It's common freakin courtesy and like Johnny said, customer service 101.
 
Agreed! Thats all I'm saying.. How about this? "I'm sorry sir, but that is information that we are not allowed to give out due to _______________. I appologize for any inconvenience that this may cause you"

Simple and respectable. If we all answered "no" to evey person that posts questions on this site, and never extended any type of cortesy to one another, there would be no site. It's common freakin courtesy and like Johnny said, customer service 101.
And throw into the mix the fate of the company being up in the air, jobs being cut in every dept. whats the first thing to suffer ??????? MORAL

I get what your saying
:cheers:
 

Vegas

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Every business and dog has their day. Maybe she's on the chopping block. I hate to judge any business by one experience.
 

Biker Babe

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Every business and dog has their day. Maybe she's on the chopping block. I hate to judge any business by one experience.
That's true, but in business we need to realize that we are the face and voice of that company and should act acordingly.

This story makes me sad.
 
I do agree that customer service should be every businesses TOP priority in today's market. :2thumbs:


In thinking of the original question and the real world reality of how it's answered, one must take the following into consideration.

1) The detail of this information "may" cause somewhat of a conflict in acceptable specifications required by many of the countries leading motorcycle insurance companies. So the information may not readily known or available.

2) Most, if not all, of these BDM frames are made by outside manufacturing sub-contractors. And BDM just assembles them. Sure, some engineer there knows what he's ask for or designed, but he's not going to be the one answering emails.

just my :zz2cents:

dead :cheers:
 
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