Tires

[Mickeetwo]

If it was me I would go with the Avon's but I might be a little partial to the Avons. I work for the company that makes that tire . I have been buiding tires for almost 30 years . The Avons are built in England. They make a very good tire. Avon is owned by Cooper Tire and Rubber Company. :flag: :flag: :flag:

 

[Cephus]

Thanks guys. I am going to stay with the Avons. Rainman brought up a good point about the front tires, and I don't want to and wouldn't run different front and backs.

 

[Raywood]

I work for the company that makes that tire . :flag: :flag: :flag:

So..... Mick......... Does this mean we have a source in getting the tires at cost???

 

[woodbutcher]

:2thumbs: :2thumbs: GROUP BUY!!!!!!!!:2thumbs: :2thumbs:

 

[Sparks]

When I bought my 03 Chopper used it had a couple thousand miles on it. The tires looked new but the front had dry rot cracks in the side walls. I replaced with the same Avon and 5k later the front has uneven wear and needs to be repaced again because of it. I do ride rather aggressively but I'm thinking I got a defective tire. The right side looks to have over twice the wear as the left and getting thinner quickly. In the past I've run Metzlers as they have no center line to grab the grooves in the California freeways and pull you around. I have never run Avons before this and may never had tried them if I didn't need to match the rear that was still like new. I thought about fork oil level but with the fork brace it should stay fairly even and it was pretty new and the old tire was'nt unevenly worn. Again it could be the way I ride since I drag the pipes on one side and the kickstand on the other but even so that seams to be exessive wear to me?

 

[Raywood]

When I bought my 03 Chopper used it had a couple thousand miles on it. The tires looked new but the front had dry rot cracks in the side walls. I replaced with the same Avon and 5k later the front has uneven wear and needs to be repaced again because of it. I do ride rather aggressively but I'm thinking I got a defective tire. The right side looks to have over twice the wear as the left and getting thinner quickly. In the past I've run Metzlers as they have no center line to grab the grooves in the California freeways and pull you around. I have never run Avons before this and may never had tried them if I didn't need to match the rear that was still like new. I thought about fork oil level but with the fork brace it should stay fairly even and it was pretty new and the old tire was'nt unevenly worn. Again it could be the way I ride since I drag the pipes on one side and the kickstand on the other but even so that seams to be exessive wear to me?

Sounds like it may have not been balanced properly.

 

[Thumper]

I think I remember seeing where the was a clearance issue for the 300 between Avon and the Metzler??

 

[Sparks]

Sounds like it may have not been balanced properly.

I'm sure I would have felt an out of ballance tire around town, not to mention mountain roads and up 100 mph speeds on the freeway. A chopper is'nt very forgiving when it comes to balance.

 

[Mickeetwo]

When I bought my 03 Chopper used it had a couple thousand miles on it. The tires looked new but the front had dry rot cracks in the side walls. I replaced with the same Avon and 5k later the front has uneven wear and needs to be repaced again because of it. I do ride rather aggressively but I'm thinking I got a defective tire. The right side looks to have over twice the wear as the left and getting thinner quickly. In the past I've run Metzlers as they have no center line to grab the grooves in the California freeways and pull you around. I have never run Avons before this and may never had tried them if I didn't need to match the rear that was still like new. I thought about fork oil level but with the fork brace it should stay fairly even and it was pretty new and the old tire was'nt unevenly worn. Again it could be the way I ride since I drag the pipes on one side and the kickstand on the other but even so that seams to be exessive wear to me?

Uneven wear is usually a balance or alignment problem. Highly unlikely it is a defective tire. Not that the tire makers don't have defective tires its just your problem makes this highly unlikely. The way the tread is applied to the tire at the factory its one piece and applied as one piece and then spliced together. The uniformity machine would have kicked it out. To be a balance problem to cause the tire to wear that quickly should be noticable when you ride. I would look at the alignment. Dry rot is caused by exposure to the sun and time. Not alot you can do about that. Hope this helps

 

[Mickeetwo]

So..... Mick......... Does this mean we have a source in getting the tires at cost???

Remember Ray I only biuld the tires , I don't sell them. I have been told from people I work with that we do get a discount but that theres alot of paper work and time involved. Most of them say its not worth the hassel and time for the amount of discount we get. I do get a good discount on car and truck tires though. Remember buy American and ask for Union Made :flag: (a little plug there, were a dying breed) or at least American made :flag: . Chinese tires are not biult as good as American made tires and yes I stand behind that statement. Would you care about your product if you worked 12 hour days 7 days a week for 50 cents a hour. Think about it. OK I'm done.

 

[Raywood]

Remember Ray I only biuld the tires , I don't sell them. I have been told from people I work with that we do get a discount but that theres alot of paper work and time involved. Most of them say its not worth the hassel and time for the amount of discount we get. I do get a good discount on car and truck tires though. Remember buy American and ask for Union Made :flag: (a little plug there, were a dying breed) or at least American made :flag: . Chinese tires are not biult as good as American made tires and yes I stand behind that statement. Would you care about your product if you worked 12 hour days 7 days a week for 50 cents a hour. Think about it. OK I'm done.

That's cool and yes I like to support the American Brands.

I was at the V-Twin Expo in Las Vegas a couple years ago with LDO and Avon had a booth there. I told them of my experience of getting over 19,000 miles on my Avon tires and they said I should send a note to the corporate office which I did.
A couple weeks later I received in the mail an very nice Avon Hawaiian shirt and a T-shirt. The Hawaiian shirt is pretty cool with pin up girls on fat tired bikes.

Good company!!!

 

[Mickeetwo]

That's cool and yes I like to support the American Brands.

I was at the V-Twin Expo in Las Vegas a couple years ago with LDO and Avon had a booth there. I told them of my experience of getting over 19,000 miles on my Avon tires and they said I should send a note to the corporate office which I did.
A couple weeks later I received in the mail an very nice Avon Hawaiian shirt and a T-shirt. The Hawaiian shirt is pretty cool with pin up girls on fat tired bikes.

Good company!!!

They've never given me a shirt, but they do give me a check every week . Guess I shouldn't complain. Thanks for buying American :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:

 

[kirk927]

I didn't realize Avons were american made tires, I thought they were made in England. They sure ride nice!

 

[Sparks]

OK folks, enlighten me! How does one adjust the alignment on the front tire with factory spacers and fixed axle mounting points?

 

[Gas Man]

What? The closest thing to alignment is making sure the forks are installed correctly. Unless you're talkin about the spacers on the front wheel.

 

[Raywood]

The alignment is the rear wheel. It drives the front one. It should be ideally straight in the frame and centered also. That's why a lot of shops are using laser alignments systems now.

Later,
Ray

 

[ChuckRB05]

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I have a few hairline cracks around the sidewalls on the front tire from normal wear. I always check the air pressure before I take off. So far I've never had a large amount of air leak out while the bike was sitting, just during big temperature swings it tends to lose some pressure.

 

[Sparks]

What? The closest thing to alignment is making sure the forks are installed correctly. Unless you're talkin about the spacers on the front wheel.

The alignment is the rear wheel. It drives the front one. It should be ideally straight in the frame and centered also. That's why a lot of shops are using laser alignments systems now.

Later,
Ray

So when I said I had uneven wear on the front tire I was advised this below by Mickeetwo


Uneven wear is usually a balance or alignment problem. Highly unlikely it is a defective tire. Not that the tire makers don't have defective tires its just your problem makes this highly unlikely. The way the tread is applied to the tire at the factory its one piece and applied as one piece and then spliced together. The uniformity machine would have kicked it out. To be a balance problem to cause the tire to wear that quickly should be noticable when you ride. I would look at the alignment. Dry rot is caused by exposure to the sun and time. Not alot you can do about that. Hope this helps
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[Raywood]

The alignment is the rear wheel. It drives the front one. It should be ideally straight in the frame and centered also. That's why a lot of shops are using laser alignments systems now.

Later,
Ray

So when I said I had uneven wear on the front tire I was advised this below by Mickeetwo


Uneven wear is usually a balance or alignment problem. Highly unlikely it is a defective tire. Not that the tire makers don't have defective tires its just your problem makes this highly unlikely. The way the tread is applied to the tire at the factory its one piece and applied as one piece and then spliced together. The uniformity machine would have kicked it out. To be a balance problem to cause the tire to wear that quickly should be noticable when you ride. I would look at the alignment. Dry rot is caused by exposure to the sun and time. Not alot you can do about that. Hope this helps
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Yes, and he believes it's an alignment issue also.

 

[05chop]

Ray Where does the laser dot shine on when they are doing an alinement? 05chop