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The ten thousand dollar mistake
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Vince81
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YOU Need a Chain Rear Drive NeilI like what you set out to do.
I wish the first guy was the only one you ever needed and you got to enjoy the pleasure from the first crack of the throttle.
I am on my 3rd transmission on just motor alone.
Baker said they are designed to be quiet per BDM spec's and for about 100 hp. Around 120 hp they just start coming apart. Tried to get them to put in some straight cut gears to help hold the power but were not able to accommodate me due to the design of the case. Said I should modify it to hold a Harley transmission that already has them in it but the primary would have to be replaced too. Snapped the belt in half last weekend and been through 5 rear tires. Do I want to de-tune my bike..Hell No.
Man I love this stuff.....
Neil
Vince81
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Yes S&S does make a 6 speed Transmission.As far as being "better" than a BAKER...well thats argumentative and I dont argue with forum members.
I just wanted to add to this great post.....to the Original Poster I'm happy that you were able to sort out your modification troubles and get up & running-but I know you'd have felt better saving the $$$,aggravation and other issues that gave you headaches.Your mods arent that extreme-and now hopefully you'll get alotta miles outta that sled & use the nitrous "sparingly".
I know yer gonna "Get on it" alot -atta boyTo be brutally honest about the *transmission* issues discussed-I've beaten My BAKER DSSC's & Stock RSD6 to DEATH,and not had any problems besides the quad seal o-ring and mainshaft seal replacements when switching to chains.(Yes I NOW run the King Kong Klutch,Torquebox 6 Speed w/N1 Shift Drum & the Function Formed Primary with NO compensator on the engine sprocket) But BAKER always served me well in Street & Strip applications in stock form-and I'm VERY HARD on my bikes.....every stoplight is a drag race and each Barhop is a burnout pit.
Hopefully this thread will help those seeking info and they'll heed the advice of doing mods & hop-ups within the mechanical realm of what these bikes were designed for.Yes a few mods done with thought & reliability in mind are Great-But there are those of us who wanna go fast,Faster and who've been INSIDE These engines & drivetrains who are offering their experience & help to those novices just starting out.
It's just common nature to read about how to make your sled go faster,better and want to do it to your own -but to the unfamiliar & beginner theres always a $ lesson to be learned.
I have a sign above my engine bench:
How Fast Can you Afford To Go
I know many here are familiar with that old Drag Racing saying
Vince
KaptinAmerika
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After my similar experience I realized that all I should have done was plunk down 8 grand for a new S&S 124, non epa of course, and the Thunderheart programmable ignition and I would have had exactly the performance I wanted but ya live and learn.
liferider
Looking forward to retirement
Hell, with my 107ss motor I have gone through 1 spikes starter and 2 bakers since 2004 when I purchased my BDM Chopper. 2 yrs ago in Sturgis I asked SS why I am eating starters, They walked outside looked at my bike and pointed saying," every engine over 100 should be running compression releases. If not a starter will be in your future." He said, " these 107,117 and 124's eat starters." On my 107 the only way to put them in is #1 drill & tap the head to put in mechanical, or #2 go into the top of the head and put in electric compression releases, which look like shit with the wires comming out of the heads.
MARV
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Vince,YOU Need a Chain Rear Drive Neil
how are you setting up a chain drive on the 05's and up?
X2....i've got the 330 rear tire...
Vince81
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Very good question.....
The *underside* bolt (of the three)on the clutch accuation cover right after the area where the clutch cable goes into the housing is "close" to the underside of the chain returning to the rear wheel-close mind you -but not dangerous or in danger of actually hitting the underside cover/bolt stud area unless the chain has more than 4 inches of slack (up & down) and on a rigid thats not an issue.
Nor would it be an issue even on a softail because that'd be alotta slack (up & down 4 ") simply because the diamater of the Transmission Sprocket is smaller than a Transmission Belt Pulley in diamater .
Thats the only concern I had and it's never been a issue to worry about.
but You asked a good question about a concern I encountered on the 1st install of a chain that I had completely forgotten about.
Contact or call me ANYTIME and If I can help you Out I'd do so gladly.:2thumbs:
Vince
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A up close pic of the sproket/cover would be nice!Very good question.....
The *underside* bolt (of the three)on the clutch accuation cover right after the area where the clutch cable goes into the housing is "close" to the underside of the chain returning to the rear wheel-close mind you -but not dangerous or in danger of actually hitting the underside cover/bolt stud area unless the chain has more than 4 inches of slack (up & down) and on a rigid thats not an issue.
Nor would it be an issue even on a softail because that'd be alotta slack (up & down 4 ") simply because the diamater of the Transmission Sprocket is smaller than a Transmission Belt Pulley in diamater .
Thats the only concern I had and it's never been a issue to worry about.
but You asked a good question about a concern I encountered on the 1st install of a chain that I had completely forgotten about.
Contact or call me ANYTIME and If I can help you Out I'd do so gladly.:2thumbs:
Vince
Thanks V
Vince81
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I hope these photo's shed some light on the topic.....*ANY* input or opinion is appreciated.
As you can see it's got quite a bit of room inside there(the chain & sprocket as compared to the huge pulley which *was* there originally) - and the lower clutch accuation cover bolt is far enough away from the reciprocating-rotating motion of the chain ( it's a big 530 chain ).
I *DID* grind a tiny bit OFF of the rounded shoulder on the bolt hole for good measure-since I wanted to be safe rather than sorry-and it's got plenty of room.
When there was a belt on there it was nowhere near that shoulder stud/bolt tab because of the larger diamater of the pulley -but that belt was torn up after a few holeshots
hence the necessity of a chainVince
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Vince81
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Yep...You Did a Neat Job Dude....
"Necessity is the Mother of Invention":2thumbs:
I Like it.....and remember that Your 05 Chopper is a shorter frame/rear wheel distance that the Pro-Street stretch & frame on my 06 Pitbulls.....
So the actual stance,rake & pitch of the swingarm Chopper is different than mine-and You did a Really Cool Job with that modification
I applaud you-and I will drink a glass of Sake to toast you as soon as I finish typing this reply:2thumbs:
Vince
"Necessity is the Mother of Invention":2thumbs:
I Like it.....and remember that Your 05 Chopper is a shorter frame/rear wheel distance that the Pro-Street stretch & frame on my 06 Pitbulls.....
So the actual stance,rake & pitch of the swingarm Chopper is different than mine-and You did a Really Cool Job with that modification
I applaud you-and I will drink a glass of Sake to toast you as soon as I finish typing this reply:2thumbs:
Vince