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Vegas

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Appreciate the help....

Front axle torque and what flavor of loctite
Caliper bolt torque and flavor
Pinch bolts and flavor
Fork top big bolt torque
 

Raywood

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That will cost you!! :D

Appreciate the help....

Front axle torque and what flavor of loctite
Caliper bolt torque and flavor
Pinch bolts and flavor
Fork top big bolt torque
Axle 45 lbs
Caliper 25 lbs
Pinch bolts axle 12 lbs
Pinch bolts Tree 16 lbs

Only specification for Loctite is red 277 on hubs and rotors. I use blue on everything else.

Neck is a fall away rate and I will need to look that up and type it all up but it's been posted on here somewhere by Dogvet. Will get that in a few minutes.

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Raywood

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No mention in my manual on setting up the fall rate of the forks but the procedure has been posted here before. I don't know if there is a difference between the pro-sport and Chopper models.

But it goes something like life the front tire off the ground and with the wheel trued/pointed straight ahead push the bars to either side till it falls away.

I guessing but think it was 2" maybe 3".

Maybe you can get Nelson to send you the .pdf file on this. They are much more detailed than the manual.

Have fun,
Ray
 

Vegas

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Thanks Ray!:flag: I ned to get a manual ordered:loony: Do you know what the torque value is for the fork bolts?
 

Nomad2day

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From the 2007 Manual

Front Axle= 45 ft lbs no loctite
Triple Tree set screw= 192 Inch Lbs 2440 Loctite
Fork Tube Top Cap= 50 ft lbs No Loctite
Axle Pinch Screw 12 ft lbs No Loctite
Triple Tree Pinch screw= 16 ft lbs Anti-seize
Fork Leg Retaining screw Bulldog=14 ft lbs 2440 Loctite


Falll away mark from the cener point should be 1-2 inches.
If the fall away is more than 2 inches, loosen the fork stem cap item 69.
If it less than a inch tighten it.
 
From the 2007 Manual


Falll away mark from the cener point should be 1-2 inches.
If the fall away is more than 2 inches, loosen the fork stem cap item 69.
If it less than a inch tighten it.
Wait I'm at a loss here. Are we calling the fork stem cap the center neck bolt? If so wouldn't it make more sense to tighten it to decrease the fall away and loosen it to increase ?
 

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Wait I'm at a loss here. Are we calling the fork stem cap the center neck bolt? If so wouldn't it make more sense to tighten it to decrease the fall away and loosen it to increase ?
I was thinking the same. :confused:
 

Nomad2day

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Wait I'm at a loss here. Are we calling the fork stem cap the center neck bolt? If so wouldn't it make more sense to tighten it to decrease the fall away and loosen it to increase ?
Fall away mark from the cener point should be 1-2 inches.
If the fall away is more than 2 inches, loosen the fork stem cap item 69.
If it less than a inch tighten it.


It is the bolt in the bottom we are talking about.......
If the fall away should be 1-2 inches and you have a mark in the middle of your fender and the front end is off the ground and a mark on the ground showing center and the following happens.

Scenario A
You push the front end one direction and you have to push it at least 2 inches or more before it falls away, decrease the bolt tension.

Scenario B
You push the front end one direction and you have to push it less than a inch and it falls away, tighten the bolt to make the front end have to travel further before it falls away...
Neil
 
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Raywood

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If the fall away should be 1-2 inches and you have a mark in the middle of your fender and the front end is off the ground and a mark on the ground showing center and the following happens.

Scenario A
You push the front end one direction and you have to push it at least 2 inches or more before it falls away, decrease the bolt tension.

Neil
Your first post:
If the fall away is more than 2 inches, loosen the fork stem cap item 69.QUOTE]

Neil, in your first post you got it a bit backwards but we knew what you meant. :D
 

Nomad2day

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No raywood,
Read it again
Neil

Perhaps I need to get what I think straight in my head first and see if I understand the fall away.

Is it how far it must travel "front" before it releases and falls away which is what I wrote...

Or is it, once it falls away it must only travel 1-2 inches?

Perhaps I see it wrong...
 

Raywood

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If the fall away is more than 2 inches, loosen the fork stem cap item 69.
If it less than a inch tighten it.
Ok, I will re-read it.

If the fall away is more than 2 inches doesn't that mean it's to loose so I would tighten it up?

If it's less than an inch wouldn't that mean it's too tight and I would loosen it up?

Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

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Raywood

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Ok, I think you meant if you have to push it more than 2" not have it fall on it's own. Just a bit backwards to me but I think I got it!

:cheers: :2thumbs: :D

PUsh or Pull

I understood it as push the bars till it falls away on it's own:

So if it falls before the 2" then tighten it up.
 

Nomad2day

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Cool,
I am getting ready to put my front end back together so I need to make sure I understand it....:loony:
Yea the manual says to tap on the front end gently until you get some action happening..
After I change the oil in the forks I am going to put it back together.....
Had to stop due to all the fumes from the propane heater starting to make me light headed. I know the beer did not have this affect or the pain killer for my back....
It was the fumes I tell you..

 

Raywood

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That thing is looking pretty good.

Can't wait to see the final results.

:cheers:
 
OK I understand what you mean by the fall away now. I also thought I read somewhere that this adjustment should be made with everything on the bike as well like,handlebars,caliper,front tire, fender etc. Kinda funny because my front end mentions the fall away as well but it also states that if more than 20-25 ft. lbs. of torque is needed to achieve this then shims must be added. I don't know if this would apply on the big dog front ends.
 

Vegas

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Thanks Neil but the inverted front ends are different than us poor guys with the stockers.:cheers: I'm not pulling the neck bearings. They were replaced under warranty about a year ago for a click and feel just fine. I need to get my ass out there and polish the other side of the rim and put the fork seals in. After dinner maybe.
 

LDO

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Fall Away Rate

Ok,
so when setting the fall away, is that done with just the 'bare trees' on the bike or is it done with the tubes, handlebars, front wheel and headlight all installed?
 
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