Jumping K-9

Energy One
We are full of Opinions and somewhere on this site someone has been in your shoes someone has already thrown that wrench someone has already bled and you can be DAMN sure someone already gave up on their dog and its a 693 lbs paperweight collecting dust.

BUT

Thats what this site (AND DAMN PROUD OF IT AND THE PEOPLE) are here for

We all agree if the rider (YOU) and not happy then there is a problem a war of words and other actions are not needed. You are in an area with other "Big Dog Brothers" and if you were in my area I would ride over there and check it with you. But I'm not but everyone of my Big Dog Brothers here in New Mexico have my Cell # and know they can call me up and I will help. but they have to buy the 1st round after the "POS" is fixed.
Hell I call my "BRO" in Washington State if I have an Issue that I Throw a wrench at.

So what I am askin is Try the ideas and I hope it fixes the problem if not lets reattack the problem and get you on the road to put some road under those wheels and a smile back on that face. Because if your smiling while riding the bugs taste ALOT better..........

Or you can tell me to F. O. and continue on the pissed off path

Yeah I'm Drinking Crown SO WHAT :roll:
Thank you, your advice is sound and appreciated. However, things area at this point more complicated than that. There is a good deal of money to lose here one way or another and the trouble and aggravation are obvious. This is really the first forum in years I have actually participated in. I have found that the membership in here are incredibly helpful and I have received help on other issues less complicated than this one.

Thank you, Tony
 
To Satterfield:

If you would like a quick simple DIY check of your front tire here is what you do. Costs nothing:

Step 1

1 - Lean your front end all the way over to one of the fork stops so it won't flop.
2 - Jack up your bike until the front tire is just off the ground.
3 - Use a black magic marker and draw a line on your rim at 6"Oclock. (pointing straight down)
4 - Spin your tire and let it stop on it's own. Do this multiple times and observe where the black line points.
5 - If always straight down tire is out of balance. If in random spots all over the place tire is balanced.

Step 2

1 - Grab a machinists stand and a dial indicator to measure side to side runout and then top to bottom runout. Don't have? No problem. Figure out somekind of a stable stand (2x10 wood) and a pointer (sharp anything, pencil dowel whatever) and tighten it all up.

2 - bring pointer up to side lip of rim and spin tire. Observe gap as tire slowly rotates. Shouldn't be very noticeable. If so then bent rim or if spoked then out of adjustment laced spokes.

3 - now do the same thing bringing your point into the front middle of the tire until it touches and slowly spin the tire. You'll see if the tire is out of round or if you have cupped areas on the tire.

Now you are armed with real information and you don't have to trust any one else's opinions. I hope this helps out your situation. Good Luck!!!

:cheers:
Many thanks for you time and effort in outlining this method of checking the tire and I am certainly going to add it to the list I have started keeping of problems solved and solutions by the members here. I am truly grateful when someone cares enough to take the time to try and help like this. The people in the membership here are the best I have even seen, more helpful and more friendly. Unfortunately, in all this time the situation has become much more complicated than can be dealt with simply, if so I would have surely had my bike back long ago.

Thanks again, Tony
 
Agree with what others have said. I have a 2008 k9 with almost 9000 miles on it. Have never had a problem like yours even at 110 mph. On my second set of tires also. I do think you need to find a different mech......
Thank you for your time. I certainly agree and these bikes are also advertised on the basis of their power, 110 mph should not even strain a bike with this kind of displacement and when you don't even need 6th gear until about 75 mph or so. Yet this is what I have been told that these bikes are not meant to go that fast etc. as I have already posted the details In will not cover it again. It is a real shame that this had to happen, I would have obviously like anyone else preferred any solution that fixed the bike and allowed me to maintain a relationship with the local dealer.

Thanks again, Tony
 
T,
You have got to stop holding in your frustration! Let it go. Get it off your chest. If you have something to say, then by all means, say it. You're going to explode if you continue to harbor in your inner most feelings about this.
Thank you, I cannot deny I have been holding in a bit of frustration with having my bike for less than two weeks out of almost three months. On the plus side at the moment I am not certain how things could get any worse so maybe I can keep the old "lid" on.
 
I've got an 06 K9 with close to 30k on it. Been thru more rear tires than I care to count and 2 fronts. Reguarly cruise at 80+ mph, have had the speedo literally pegged countless times, and have only experienced chopper wobble once (and that was at 70-something in a high crosswind). All that and have never experienced the problems you are. Yes, something is definitely wrong with your bike. These bikes are made to be stable at that speed. Maybe it's your tire. Maybe it's your bearings. But it might also be your wheel. But your main problem seems to be your dealer. (Mine would bend over backwards to remedy the problem. Most likely at no charge). If I were you, I'd post who it is (to spare others similar grief), and then DUMP THEM!!! Look at it this way...if the further dealer is 10x better, a nice little 100 mile road trip is a helluva lot better than a couple thousand dollar headache! We've spent ALOT of money on these bikes. Crappy dealers who don't produce ought to fold. Period!
Thank you taking the time to reply. I can find no fault with you post and all of the things that you mention have as far as I know been checked. However, many things that were supposed to have been done right were not. You right about the money as I am in over 30k and cannot even go out in the garage and look at it. Your experience with high speed is quite opposite of what I have been advised-I am certain though this can be done easily as soon as this problem (whatever it is) is fixed

Obviously, as you can tell by my detailed post things have become much more complicated to be simply resolved especially since the problem (any problem) will not be admitted. In this situation, it seems easiest to try and blame the rider/owner than take responsibility for a bike has a problem.

As for posting the entire affair I may just upload a .pdf file and let those who are interested read and those who are not ignore. As I said in my post I did not want to have to have things get to this point. I will see tomorrow, perhaps some solution can still be worked out.

Thank you, Tony
 

barhopper

Another round please
You know what they say, fix the damn thing yourself. It ain't that hard. Lots of great info here. You have destroyed your relationship with that dealer. Pick up the bike and move on. Lesson learned.
 

BadBrad

2005 Pitbull
As for posting the entire affair I may just upload a .pdf file and let those who are interested read and those who are not ignore. As I said in my post I did not want to have to have things get to this point. I will see tomorrow, perhaps some solution can still be worked out.

Thank you, Tony
T,
I think that's a good idea. This thread is a lot like what the possum said after making love to the skunk, "I ain't had all I've wanted, I've just had all I can stand". :job:
 

Dozer1

Active Member
Thank you taking the time to reply. I can find no fault with you post and all of the things that you mention have as far as I know been checked. However, many things that were supposed to have been done right were not. You right about the money as I am in over 30k and cannot even go out in the garage and look at it. Your experience with high speed is quite opposite of what I have been advised-I am certain though this can be done easily as soon as this problem (whatever it is) is fixed

Obviously, as you can tell by my detailed post things have become much more complicated to be simply resolved especially since the problem (any problem) will not be admitted. In this situation, it seems easiest to try and blame the rider/owner than take responsibility for a bike has a problem.

As for posting the entire affair I may just upload a .pdf file and let those who are interested read and those who are not ignore. As I said in my post I did not want to have to have things get to this point. I will see tomorrow, perhaps some solution can still be worked out.

Thank you, Tony
What I don't like is your dealer's initial response on this forum. Now, keep in mind, I don't know you from Adam. For all I know, you may very well be the impossible-to-please asshole that he/they seem to claim you are. However, even if you are, one thing I find EXTREMELY distasteful are many of the disparaging remarks the dealer stated BEFORE he was even identified. For instance, taking off with the kickstand still down, etc. (Who HASN'T done that from time to time? And further, if the bike had been properly serviced off the showroom floor, the stand should basically go up by itself prior to taking off anyway.)

You've been given a ton of good advice here. (A couple of tips I've even noted for myself.) These guys are fan-flippin-tastic! And so are most exclusive BD dealers, I've found. Hopefully you can soon find a solution and get your bike on the road at stable high speed...LIKE THEY WERE INTENDED!
 
You know what they say, fix the damn thing yourself. It ain't that hard. Lots of great info here. You have destroyed your relationship with that dealer. Pick up the bike and move on. Lesson learned.
Thank you for your input, but I have not destroyed anything. I have however learned some valuable lessons, there can be no doubt of that.

Thanks, "T"
 
What I don't like is your dealer's initial response on this forum. Now, keep in mind, I don't know you from Adam. For all I know, you may very well be the impossible-to-please asshole that he/they seem to claim you are. However, even if you are, one thing I find EXTREMELY distasteful are many of the disparaging remarks the dealer stated BEFORE he was even identified. For instance, taking off with the kickstand still down, etc. (Who HASN'T done that from time to time? And further, if the bike had been properly serviced off the showroom floor, the stand should basically go up by itself prior to taking off anyway.)

You've been given a ton of good advice here. (A couple of tips I've even noted for myself.) These guys are fan-flippin-tastic! And so are most exclusive BD dealers, I've found. Hopefully you can soon find a solution and get your bike on the road at stable high speed...LIKE THEY WERE INTENDED!
Thank you for your input. I am not the asshole they describe. I have also gained a lot of great information in from many posts and information in here. This is a great forum, no doubt about it. As for myself, my continued participation and post into the future will prove out weather I am an asshole or just a guy with a new bike trying to learn and also trying to help where I can. You can easily check my other (40-50 or so) post which started the day after I bought the bike on 4/29/2010 and make a determination on my motivations.
 
I have nothing but the best compliments for the staff at Tampa BD. You guys took great care of me and my bike back when I shipped it over there for the Daytona Rally. Sometimes you just can't please all the customers I guess.
Thanks Tank

:2thumbs::cheers::2thumbs:
I am glad that you had a good experience, I have not. However, this does not mean it is about not being able to "please" the customer. It simply means that one "customer's" experience has not mirrored your own.

Thank you for your input, Tony
 

RCAdd1ct

JAFO
Flat spots on the tires from sitting?

If it has been sitting for as long as it sounds that might be an issue.

Hell I had to take my trickle charger in when I left my bike last time the engine was being worked on. Time before the battery died. then again my bike was there for a couple of months the last go 'round.
 

jimizee028

TRUE COLORS COLLISION
I just dont understand why the bike is still sitting there if this is SUCH an issue.........If you are not satisfied with this dealerships diagnosis,service or showroom storytelling,get the bike,take it somewhere else..........
I would rather be riding the bike at 'SPEED LIMITS' anyway ,then for it to be sitting in a garage while i am complaining about it on a computer........
If you spent $30,000 on this bike allready as you have stated i am sure somewhere somehow you can dig up another $175 and replace the front tire and see if this solves your issue..........
It is my opinion that if one wants to roll at very high speeds on a bike for a matter of time then you have bought the wrong bike,my 07 CHOPPER shakes ,rattles and rolls at speeds above 85-90...guess what its not sitting in a shop ...I just dont ride it above 85-90 for any length of time..........
And if this is about'PRINCIPALS' or the whole thought process of 'I BOUGHT A $30,000 BIKE I SHOULDNT HAVE ANY PROBLEMS" well you better be prepared cause you have many more lessons to learn............
IS THE REASON THE BIKE IS SITTING THERE STILL CAUSE YOU HAVE NOW GOT ATTORNEYS INVOLVED?
 

2004BC

FREEDOM!!!
Exactly and great advice! ... A great "Old School" check for all those out there without a service center (and something we automatically do) Respects ... Hope to meet you and buy ya a drink!.... :cheers::2thumbs::cheers:
I fly down to Ft Lauderdale and Miami on business quite often and I usually arrive thirsty. :lol:
 

2004BC

FREEDOM!!!
Many thanks for you time and effort in outlining this method of checking the tire and I am certainly going to add it to the list I have started keeping of problems solved and solutions by the members here. I am truly grateful when someone cares enough to take the time to try and help like this. The people in the membership here are the best I have even seen, more helpful and more friendly. Unfortunately, in all this time the situation has become much more complicated than can be dealt with simply, if so I would have surely had my bike back long ago.

Thanks again, Tony
No problem Tony. My pleasure. I'm glad to share anything I know with the great folks on this forum. Way way back in the day before it was popular I had a small shop where I built one off custom Harley show bikes before the ease of catalogs. You learn a lot about the machines when you have to do everything yourself in house. Best of luck turning your situation around and getting to the root of your problem.
:cheers:
Oh yea, if you need any further help PM me and I'll email you my cell #.:up:
 
Flat spots on the tires from sitting?

If it has been sitting for as long as it sounds that might be an issue.

Hell I had to take my trickle charger in when I left my bike last time the engine was being worked on. Time before the battery died. then again my bike was there for a couple of months the last go 'round.
No thats not an issue although I can see how it might seem that way, thanks for you input. Tony
 
I just dont understand why the bike is still sitting there if this is SUCH an issue.........If you are not satisfied with this dealerships diagnosis,service or showroom storytelling,get the bike,take it somewhere else..........
I would rather be riding the bike at 'SPEED LIMITS' anyway ,then for it to be sitting in a garage while i am complaining about it on a computer........
If you spent $30,000 on this bike allready as you have stated i am sure somewhere somehow you can dig up another $175 and replace the front tire and see if this solves your issue..........
It is my opinion that if one wants to roll at very high speeds on a bike for a matter of time then you have bought the wrong bike,my 07 CHOPPER shakes ,rattles and rolls at speeds above 85-90...guess what its not sitting in a shop ...I just dont ride it above 85-90 for any length of time..........
And if this is about'PRINCIPALS' or the whole thought process of 'I BOUGHT A $30,000 BIKE I SHOULDNT HAVE ANY PROBLEMS" well you better be prepared cause you have many more lessons to learn............
IS THE REASON THE BIKE IS SITTING THERE STILL CAUSE YOU HAVE NOW GOT ATTORNEYS INVOLVED?
Hey, just wanted to thank you taking the time to give your input and your opinions. If everyone's opinion was the same we would all have a lot less problems. There is a limit to what can be conveyed through this type of "messaging" system. Thanks again for your input. Thanks, "T"
 
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