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dnespolo

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Finally this week-end I should be able to service for the first time my bike (500 miles). I'm going to use regular oil in the engine and I'm going to put the Amsoil Severe Gear 75W 90 in the transmission and the Amsoil 20W-50 in the primary. At 3-5K miles probably I'll switch to synthetic oil in the engine too. Anybody is using Amsoil in their X-Wedge? And can you use the K&P filter with the synthetic oil? Anyway probably I will be asking more question while servicing the Wolf. :bang:
Thanks
 

chacha

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I've been using Synth in the K&P with no problems -- the filter don't care what's going thru.

:cheers:
 

dnespolo

Active Member
Some people say that the engine are more noise some say they are quiter with amsoil but what about heat. Do you think that the motor run cooler or hotter with amosoil.
 

outdoorsman26

Well-Known Member
your motor puts out a certian ammount of heat when under NORMAL operating conditions...your oil helps lube the moving parts in your motor, now the fins on ur motor, k&p oil filter and oil cooler(if ya got one) help cool your oil, your motor is not oil cooled its air cooled!!! when buying (looking to buy) a certian oil you want to see how well the oil works (lubracates) at normal operating temp you can find all kinds of sites that compare oils this site has A LOT. I have used Amsoil in my snowmobile for 10yrs my truck for 5, lawn tractor for 6, weedeater and chain saw for 6, boat for 3 and my bike for 17,000mi I have never had ANY problems with anything motorwise!! it may run a lil louder but that doesnt mean its not doing its job!! do sum lookin on the fourm Im sure you will find an anwser!! If not go buy amsoil an you wont be dissapointed:2thumbs:
 

Mad Dog

ValueTeck Enterprises
Denny, might I ask why you are not going to use synthetic in the engine? If your concerned about break in at 500 miles you should be all set. Anyway Amsoil is a great oil. I have the K&P filters in stock and available on The Group Buy Page and right now I am offering free shipping on orders over $50. You won't find a better price.
If you think you will be using Amsoil on a regular basis you might consider becomming a Prefered Customer. For $20 a year you can buy at dealer cost and have it delivered to your door. Buying just 1 case gets you your money back. Click on the link under my banner and then click on opportunities.
 

Iman

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BDM does not require the primary and tranny change until 5000, but then again, i do not know what they require for the X_Wedge??
 

dnespolo

Active Member
Denny, might I ask why you are not going to use synthetic in the engine? If your concerned about break in at 500 miles you should be all set. Anyway Amsoil is a great oil. I have the K&P filters in stock and available on The Group Buy Page and right now I am offering free shipping on orders over $50. You won't find a better price.
If you think you will be using Amsoil on a regular basis you might consider becomming a Prefered Customer. For $20 a year you can buy at dealer cost and have it delivered to your door. Buying just 1 case gets you your money back. Click on the link under my banner and then click on opportunities.

I'm not using amsoil in the engine because doing some reading in the forum I got the understanding that would be better to go synthetic after you broke the engine in around 3-5K. Anyway I'm planing to go synthetic next oil change and Mad Dog, yes I am going to buy from you the K&P filter just not right now but whenever I'm going to do the next oil change.
 

dnespolo

Active Member
BDM does not require the primary and tranny change until 5000, but then again, i do not know what they require for the X_Wedge??
My bike manual says to do the tranny and primary change at 500 and after that any other oil change.
 

chacha

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From the S&S X-Wedge manual page 2-5, they say the break-in should include an oil and filter change at 50 and then again at 500 miles. After that, every 2500 miles.

They recommend Mobile 1 Synthetic -- the engine ships with four quarts of it.
 

dnespolo

Active Member
From the S&S X-Wedge manual page 2-5, they say the break-in should include an oil and filter change at 50 and then again at 500 miles. After that, every 2500 miles.

They recommend Mobile 1 Synthetic -- the engine ships with four quarts of it.
I have a owner's manual and the 2009 service manual and I can't find anywhere that say it need to get service at 50 miles too. Do you have the manual service from S&S?
Anyway where can I find the cover gasket of the primary plate? And the loctite 5699 RTV silicone sealer?
Thanks
 

dnespolo

Active Member
Ok friday I changed the engine oil, I used 4 quarters but I still need another 6-10 oz. to fill up to the right level the oil tank. After that I changed the tranny oil and I put in 20 oz. (as manual recommended) of severe gear but I couldn't check the oil level because my bike doesn't have a threaded dipstick. Also my manual says to replace the tranny drain plug but it is just a bolt without any gasket so I reused it and it seems to hold fine. I didn't change the primary oil because I don't have the plate gasket yet even the mechanic at the shop where I bought the oils told me I could reuse the old gasket.
Anyway saturday and sunday I went for a ride and this afternoon when I got home from work I tried to start the bike but it wouldn't start, it seems the buttery doesn't have enough juice. Already yesterday when I got home I turn off and soon after on the bike and I felt the battery was weak. How can be that possible don't they put the battery new when you buy a bike, I got it in october. Or could be the alternator?
 
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chacha

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Denny;

Yes, the 50 and 500 oil change comment is from the S&S manual -- a worthwhile investment. On the battery, hard to tell. Charging system should need ~20 minutes of riding to recover from the drain of starting. Standard question - is it on a battery tender?

Worth putting a multi-meter on the charging system to check.

Good luck!
 

dnespolo

Active Member
Denny;

Yes, the 50 and 500 oil change comment is from the S&S manual -- a worthwhile investment. On the battery, hard to tell. Charging system should need ~20 minutes of riding to recover from the drain of starting. Standard question - is it on a battery tender?

Worth putting a multi-meter on the charging system to check.

Good luck!
No it is not on battery tender I just ordered one last night, and yes I rode more than 20 minutes sunday. Anyway the case is the battery doesn't hold the power or the charging system doesn't work. Right now I can't turn on the bike so I can't test with a multi-meter the charging system (I'm even not sure how to do that).
Does the battery come with the bike from BDM or is the dealer that install a new battery when you purchase the bike? Anybody know?
 

chacha

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OK - like Mick said, the battery is from BDM if it was sold new -- should have some coverage there, but a test and a charge at a local auto store should clear that up.

On testing the charging system, I defer to "Ohmster The Wise" who posted:

I know you said the cb was not tripped but double check it. Easiest way to do that is to take a meter and set it to read VDC. Put the negative lead of the meter to battery ground. Take the positive lead and check for voltage on both post of the cb. If it is not tripped you will get battery voltage on both post. If it's tripped just one post will have voltage.

To check your stator output, like mentioned before disconnect the stator plug down by the oil filter. Set your meter to read VAC and with the engine running put the positive lead in one terminal and the negative in the other terminal in the motor case. At idle should be around 20VAC and at around 3000 rpm should be around 60VAC.

If both those check out good then set your meter to read continuity and check the voltage regulator case to see if it is grounded properly. Set your meter to read ohms and put the negative lead to a good chassis ground or battery ground. Set the positive lead to the case of the voltage regulator and it should be 2 ohms or less.

If all three of those items check out then it is more than likely a voltage regulator that needs to be replaced.
 

07bigdog

07BIGDOG
I bought a brand new Harley that was 2 years old. Got about 4 starts out of it. Battery had a bad cell and they replaced new on warranty.
 

dnespolo

Active Member
Thanks guys my meter read 12V only in one post so gotta be the battery. I'll contact BDM to see if they will cover it under warranty.
 
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