BWG56
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PussyNot gonna touch that one...real tough though..
Easy pull clutch ramp
- Thread starter bigkelk9
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Yes, at times..Pussy
PROFLYER
SWOLE
Looking at the pic, I wonder if you could just modify the ramp on the 12 plate clutch a bit. I guess I'm confused as to why the soft pull seems to have the tapered slots going both ways. Looks like they took the regular pull and then added slots the other direction. Is that what you were saying @Mr. Wright ?
TapioK
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Ah was a bit tired yesterday, you mean balls in the ramp.
bigkelk9
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According to baker it requires the new 9 plate basket with bigger ball bearings and a different throw out bearing. The update has to be done as well with the new hardened plate and no slide ring. That's what they told me when I called about the update for the nut and washer and new pressure plate
That's what I meant was just a guess when they said "bearings" otherwise don't know what it could be
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TapioK
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I am with BWG in this. In my experiments with clutch I played with frictions and steels (baker has 3 thickness of steels) to find a perfect combo, had 9-11 plates setups, all hold perfectly. If the pack is too thick for easypull ramp, I would just take on friction away and add one thin steel, or that and replace one steel with thinner.. or whatever to get the thickness right.
I Don't remember how many frictions I have on my setup, 10 or 11 I suppose, never had any problems with slipping. But then again dry clutch probably holds better anyways?
I Don't remember how many frictions I have on my setup, 10 or 11 I suppose, never had any problems with slipping. But then again dry clutch probably holds better anyways?
Mr. Wright
Knows some things
Having, not had the new one in my hand, i ordered one for a K9 I'm working on. I still don't know why it is tappered in the opposite direction than the ball rolls. It is ramped a little more in the direction the ball rolls, to the point that the ball doesn't] push the two ramp plates apart as far as the stock ones do. When i get this bike running, I'll let everyone know if i have any trouble adjusting it, or what i run in to.
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I'm no engineer, but I also don't understand why the ramps go both ways. The clutch pull is only one direction. I could see the soft pull having a longer and shallower ramp compared to the stock (which is pretty abrupt) but then you're lengthening the overall distance you need to pull the lever--maybe that's why the adjustment is more fickle. The only way I can see making it truly easier to pull, while maintaining the same positive engagement, is to lengthen the torque arm of the plate--move the spot where the cable attaches further away from the pivot point. Obviously there are fitment issues there. I wonder if the handle side of the cable could be modified in the control?
TapioK
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If you modify the controls to make lever movement longer you might end up in the situation where you need to grow longer fingers
Mr. Wright
Knows some things
Even with a longer arm on the ball ramp, your cable only pulls .340. They make two different clutch springs, but with the horse power this bike is putting out, we stayed with the heavier spring. It pulls a lot easier than it did before, but until I get it running, I don't know how easy it will adjust.