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KaptinAmerika

KaptinAmerika

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Jwooky said:
Horrific Keep us posted on what they find out.

One of the things I specifically looked at was all the reviews, several thousand and it included many from cold weather usages and regions and folks using them in snowmobiles. The BMS should manage any condition.
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Yes the BMS should handle it but there are times when they don't. I don't state the above to scare folks away from lithium. I love them. It is simply a word of caution as this is the third incident I've heard about this happening. All the incidents were different manufacturers also.
 
Mikeinjersey

Mikeinjersey

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After reading this I am way less skeptical of the Lithium LifePO4 type of battery. The NOCO- NLP20 is that type.
relionbattery.com

What is LiFePO4 and Why is it a Better Choice?

All lithium chemistries are not created equal. In fact, most American consumers – electronic enthusiasts aside – are only familiar with a limited range of lithium solutions. The most common versions are built from cobalt oxide, manganese oxide and nickel oxide formulations.
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Mikeinjersey

Mikeinjersey

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I decided to go for the NOCO- NLP20. It had a list price of $180 at AutoZone. After a 20% off CYBERDEAL code from Autozone and tax total came to $153 if anyone is interested.
I will come back with a review after I install it. Thanks to jwooky for helping me make the decision :oldthumbsup:
 
KaptinAmerika

KaptinAmerika

Guru
Mikeinjersey said:
After reading this I am way less skeptical of the Lithium LifePO4 type of battery. The NOCO- NLP20 is that type.
relionbattery.com

What is LiFePO4 and Why is it a Better Choice?

All lithium chemistries are not created equal. In fact, most American consumers – electronic enthusiasts aside – are only familiar with a limited range of lithium solutions. The most common versions are built from cobalt oxide, manganese oxide and nickel oxide formulations.
relionbattery.com relionbattery.com
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All the new lithium batteries for motorsports are LIfepo4
 
KaptinAmerika

KaptinAmerika

Guru
Jwooky said:
Just don’t use a charger with a desulfator on a lithium battery.

That’s the only difference in a “Lithium “ charger or mode.
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Good info in terms of using a regular trickle charger on a lithium battery but that is definitely not the only difference.
If you own a lithium battery you would be wise to buy a quality smart Lithium charger.
The smart lithium chargers keep the cells balanced and optimized which will extend the life of the battery by a couple of years at least under normal operating parameters.

Lithium Battery Charger
 
Mr. Wright

Mr. Wright

Knows some things
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We keep coming up with these threads about batteries. I'm not going to say anything about the lithium batteries cuz I have no experience with them. But I will say, why fight or argue about what we know works. I have a bike in my shop right now that had an off-brand battery in it. I don't know if the battery sorted out the voltage regulator, or the voltage regulator shorted out the battery. But it cost him dearly, new EHC, and of course a new Deka battery, speedometer speed sensor, tack ring, front brake light switch, and we'll find out soon enough what other component that that'll go bad in the near future, that were weakened, by pumping ac voltage to the system. This is the third time I've run into this.
If you are still running your original charging system, I highly recommend you change it out before it cost you thousands of dollars like this guy.
 
2004BC

2004BC

FREEDOM!!!
I bought Curtis's top lithium battery 4 or 5 years ago and the correct charger. I had a hard time turning the worked motor over for any length of time (made sure compression releases worked correctly) before the amp drop was too much, and started slowing down. Turns over now very easy. Still going strong. Costs bucks but I wanted maximum cranking power and got it. My other Harleys are regular batteries no problem. 900CCA.
 
Mickmorris

Mickmorris

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Mr. Wright said:
We keep coming up with these threads about batteries. I'm not going to say anything about the lithium batteries cuz I have no experience with them. But I will say, why fight or argue about what we know works. I have a bike in my shop right now that had an off-brand battery in it. I don't know if the battery sorted out the voltage regulator, or the voltage regulator shorted out the battery. But it cost him dearly, new EHC, and of course a new Deka battery, speedometer speed sensor, tack ring, front brake light switch, and we'll find out soon enough what other component that that'll go bad in the near future, that were weakened, by pumping ac voltage to the system. This is the third time I've run into this.
If you are still running your original charging system, I highly recommend you change it out before it cost you thousands of dollars like this guy.
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When you say off brand are you referring to a lithium ion battery? There was a lithium ion in my ‘04 ridgeback when I bought it from Dispatch (Wayne). Bike cranked right up with it. But I was worried about the overcharging if the vr were to go bad. Runs great on a Deka. fwiw.023FCB11-5E58-4D3E-B0EA-3D3E97D68C15.jpeg
 
Mr. Wright

Mr. Wright

Knows some things
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Mickmorris said:
When you say off brand are you referring to a lithium ion battery? There was a lithium ion in my ‘04 ridgeback when I bought it from Dispatch (Wayne). Bike cranked right up with it. But I was worried about the overcharging if the vr were to go bad. Runs great on a Deka. fwiw.View attachment 107966
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No, I'll get a picture of it tomorrow.
 
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Mr. Wright

Mr. Wright

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These are the last two batteries that took out ehc's. Some of the other ones that come to mind are the x-rated and there's another one with an x in the title.
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Mr. Wright

Mr. Wright

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I was picking up my mess and fixing to roll the bike off the rack, when I noticed that the old circuit breaker was missing the reset button.
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So I popped it apart, it had gotten so hot that it warped it to where the contacts aren't touching anymore,.
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That means it didn't pop immediately. Had them contacts stuck, it probably would have cought the bike on fire
 
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