2016 Big Dog.

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Th3InfamousI

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Go to KMW web site? Do a web search? NADA... Unveil at Sturgis? Maybe a feel for the market but not a full launch of the "New Big Dog". A NOS build yes?
Need deep pockets for a full launch, probably why you don't see much information. I wouldn't disagree for getting a feel for the market, that's just smart business.

I do think it's a challenging market at that price point that was passed around however, but I'll reserve judgement until further information is available. I do however admire the team for giving it a go, I really hope it pans out. I love my dogs and would love to see them being built again even if in limited quantities.

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Biker Babe

Queen Bee
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Hey, it's not easy or cheap starting a business. We just need to be supportive and wish them the best. I had a squatter on my domain name and everyone and their brother was trying to sell it to me for big bucks. I had to wait 'til the second it expired and try to snipe it from those people who buy and sell names (a practice I don't care for!). Man, did that feel like a huge victory!
 

aspen874

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Need deep pockets for a full launch, probably why you don't see much information. I wouldn't disagree for getting a feel for the market, that's just smart business.

I do think it's a challenging market at that price point that was passed around however, but I'll reserve judgement until further information is available. I do however admire the team for giving it a go, I really hope it pans out. I love my dogs and would love to see them being built again even if in limited quantities.

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I agree on the deep pockets statement, as for pricing, yea they probably have to be in the 30K plus range. If you go to your local Harley dealer and price a bike with all the options, you will be in the high 20's and still a Harley. Its 2016 prices for labor, parts, etc.
 

Dakotabos

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Troop Supporter
I will support Matt and his team. Hell I even advertise Big Dog on my arm ;) I will not buy the K-9 until I can figure out how to put at least hard side bags on it ;) I am getting tired of my Ultra Buddies carrying my stuff. Asked Matt about a Bagger but he said it would be hard to compete with HD price. But I am looking at FBI prices (His True Competition in Baggers) and FBI prices are OMG
 

Jwooky

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I'm not personally a fan, but I do appreciate the baggers. I think the bulldog bagger was ahead of its time and would be a huge hit these days.

With all the stretching end extending guys are putting 6 figures in these bikes and BDM did it 5 years ago. I still don't think anyone has a fairing that looks as good as the BDM. I think they could do better with the bags though, never liked the 4 round tail lights.
 

ground pounder

Active Member
Nice bike. But if Matt Moore is in charge we might be in trouble. He promised to get me the ehc software for a 2009 efi bike and then blew me off and didn't answer any of my e-mails!!!
 

Dakotabos

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Nice bike. But if Matt Moore is in charge we might be in trouble. He promised to get me the ehc software for a 2009 efi bike and then blew me off and didn't answer any of my e-mails!!!
Ground Pounder He seamed like a stand up guy but I only met him once. He gave me his direct contact info and I know he is trying to clean up all the issues he is being contacted with. People don't understand that Yes Big Dog is starting up and the older bikes (Pre 2014) are not helped much but that's why there are sites like this to help. The EHC issue (In my opinion) Killed Big Dog's Rep and there are several ways to fix issues. I love my old school wired Chopper. Matt needs a bigger staff and taking on a lot but he needs to spread the job but nobody works for free so to save money there is only one option but there is no way to please everyone.
I hope you have the EHC Software issue fixed and If not lets start a new thread and get it out there. Maybe someone can burn you a copy and get you hooked up.
 

cdogg556

Guru
I'm not personally a fan, but I do appreciate the baggers. I think the bulldog bagger was ahead of its time and would be a huge hit these days.

With all the stretching end extending guys are putting 6 figures in these bikes and BDM did it 5 years ago. I still don't think anyone has a fairing that looks as good as the BDM. I think they could do better with the bags though, never liked the 4 round tail lights.
I really like the 2015 one that was for sale on here! If I was to ever get a bagger, the Bulldog is what I would get! I think your right also, they might have more luck trying to market that then the K9!
 

ground pounder

Active Member
Hey Dakotabos that was over a year or 2ago i contacted him. I would like to get the diagnostic soft ware for my 2009 efi ehc. Any help would be appreciated!!!
 

showdog

Active Member
Hey Dakotabos that was over a year or 2ago i contacted him. I would like to get the diagnostic soft ware for my 2009 efi ehc. Any help would be appreciated!!!
By no means am I making any promise and hopefully don't get blasted for offering but here I go,

I will look next time I'm home and see if I can find my disc's and cables. Mind you I have moved twice since then and not sure if they made the moves with me. If I can find them and your still needing them I'll ship them to you. Also buyer beware, I don't get home very often, it's been over a month since the last time I was there and that time was for only 1 day.
 

Matt Moore

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Thanks to everybody for the kind words. We just got back in from Sturgis and, as you can imagine, are working hard to catch up. We have much more to share but here are some of the brief answers to your questions:

1.) Sturgis Update-- The Sturgis event was not the official re-launch of the company. We had appointments and test-rides set with key dealers, vendors, and media that filled the week. Overall the event was a huge success and I am happy to report the meetings went great as every dealer we met with committed to carry the brand. It was an honor to meet up with the Big Dog Biker members and give you a sneak peek at what we are working on. Thanks to those that waited on me to get there. I have been working the rallies for Big Dog over 10 years and they are always chaotic logistically-speaking. Big shout out and thanks to MastiffDave for helping me make it finally happen this year.

2.) Website/Marketing/Etc-- The new Big Dog website was supposed to launch before I left for Sturgis but it is behind-schedule. The Kansas Motorcycle Works page is operating but will be replaced by the new Big Dog Site. This is the reason we have not invested any money into the KMW site recently. I have been battling the cyber-squatters for Bigdogmotorcycles.com and bdm.com domains for many months now. We are in-process of a federal lawsuit against the cyber-squatters and it just takes a lot of time and money. I have come to the understanding that this is pretty standard when a company's assets are frozen in litigation during a foreclosure like Big Dog's. In the meantime, I have another URL we will be using. I will keep you posted with those details.

3.) Price-- The target retail price for the 2016 K-9 is between $32,900 and 33,900. Please remember that the K-9 retailed for $29,900 in 2006 when Big Dog was building 5000 motorcycles per year. Given it is 9 model-years later and we are producing in much smaller quantities with more expensive components, I think we are doing a great job of keeping the price down. We are doing this by managing our overhead very closely and simplifying some manufacturing processes.

4.) Primary--The primary and starter configuration is no longer the proprietary design as used by Big Dog from 2005-20011. The new primary utilizes the time-tested softail-style configuration for ease serviceability, replacement parts, customization, etc.

5.) Struts--The struts will come with the sissy bar mounts already installed.

6.) EHC--The electrical system will function exactly as before except we are using the R.I.P configuration instead of an EHC.

7.) Models--We are only building K9s right now. We have plans to build other models in the future but the K9 is what the dealers and customers are asking for the most.

8.) Reunion--I definitely want to help with the BDB reunion and think Wichita would be a great place to at least stop at :). I will volunteer and contribute what I can to make this event awesome. I have some cool Wichita ideas to run by everybody when the time is right.

9.) Groundpounder EFI-- I'm sorry if I didn't get back to you. I try very hard to prevent anything from falling through the cracks but it appears I dropped the ball on this one. I'm sorry brother. If you still need help with your EHC or S&S fuel injection module, I would be happy to help you. You can even send it here and we can do the work and send it back to you.

10.) Thank you to those few in-the-know that kept your promise to keep the relaunch confidential until Sturgis. Not a single one of you mentioned anything to anybody that I knew about. I know who each of you are and appreciate you keeping your word.

11.) Final thoughts-- The full story of "how we got here" will be disclosed with the launch of the new website. The short version is me and my team of employees believe so much in Big Dog Motorcycles that we are pouring everything we have into it. We picked up the ball and ran with it and it has been a very long and difficult journey. I am not capitalized like the former Big Dog Manufacturing company and, therefore, can't be everything for everybody as Big Dog once tried to be. My approach is, in many ways, how Sheldon started this whole thing so many years ago except now we have the benefit of 25 years experience in the industry. If history holds true, I anticipate our relaunch will come under some criticism. I appreciate and am thankful to those that stand behind and support us in this endeavor. To the naysayers, I say contribute something constructive or nothing at all. Hell, I am even open to bringing on the right partners if they can help me grow the business better than I can do on my own. The mission is the continuation of the greatest motorcycles on the road. Long Live Big Dog!
 
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