2005 bulldog no crank no start..??

[Nwhicks21]

So I’ve tried cleaning old starter and using, tried new starter, tried installing override button on starter, all to no avail. It tries to engage starter but doesn’t. Idk if the bendix or jackshaft is messed up but on the new one it pushes out and then I have to tap it back in bc it doesn’t retract. The old one comes in and out but still won’t engage. Battery good, tried different alignment, I’m at a loss. Also I noticed the primary is chewed up a little it looks like the jackass I bought it from used the wrong bolts on the clutch basket so I hope it’ll be ok with an oil change and the metal shavings didn’t destroy my engine. It ran great last time I shut it down so I don’t think that’s the issue, but is anyone Has any help what the correct bolts are I’d appreciate it. Ty

 

[Mikeinjersey]

So I’ve tried cleaning old starter and using, tried new starter, tried installing override button on starter, all to no avail. It tries to engage starter but doesn’t. Idk if the bendix or jackshaft is messed up but on the new one it pushes out and then I have to tap it back in bc it doesn’t retract. The old one comes in and out but still won’t engage. Battery good, tried different alignment, I’m at a loss. Also I noticed the primary is chewed up a little it looks like the jackass I bought it from used the wrong bolts on the clutch basket so I hope it’ll be ok with an oil change and the metal shavings didn’t destroy my engine. It ran great last time I shut it down so I don’t think that’s the issue, but is anyone Has any help what the correct bolts are I’d appreciate it. Ty

This file may help you. https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/n5dw...er-9.pdf?rlkey=sooak6qz7vr6aus0wh4h981yd&dl=0
Bench test your starters to get clues.
Maybe your clutch hub nut is backing out causing the clutch assembly to hit the cover.

 

[Jersey Big Mike]

This file may help you. https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/n5dw...er-9.pdf?rlkey=sooak6qz7vr6aus0wh4h981yd&dl=0
Bench test your starters to get clues.
Maybe your clutch hub nut is backing out causing the clutch assembly to hit the cover.

Grab that clutch pack and see if it moves in and out.
The pattern on your outer primary cover indicates that the bolts have been hitting it which is usually from a loose hub nut.
I'd disassemble the clutch and check everything and re-assemble it.
bnech check the starters as mentioned.

 

[Nwhicks21]

After further investigation, I’ve taken my primary apart and disassembled my clutch basket removed the drive gear and sprocket to find my inner primary is chewed up on the engine side of the case. This along with the outer primary being chewed up from the bolts leads me to believe the bearings are bad, but is it just the primary cover bearings or transmission bearings? The basket was firmly held on, no play at all

 

[Jersey Big Mike]

After further investigation, I’ve taken my primary apart and disassembled my clutch basket removed the drive gear and sprocket to find my inner primary is chewed up on the engine side of the case. This along with the outer primary being chewed up from the bolts leads me to believe the bearings are bad, but is it just the primary cover bearings or transmission bearings? The basket was firmly held on, no play at all

See if there is any play in the shaft (in and out) or side to side.
check the bearing in the clutch setup and see if it feels rough or loose when turning.

 

[Nwhicks21]

Input shaft is tight in every direction and in and out, 0 play in it. But the clutch bearing is fucked… it’s pretty rough but still spins

 

[Nwhicks21]

It doesn’t appear to be so outta whack tho

 

[Jersey Big Mike]

It doesn’t appear to be so outta whack tho

That bearing has got to go!

 

[Nwhicks21]

Ok. Where should I get one? Do u think that’s the culprit?

 

[Jersey Big Mike]

Ok. Where should I get one? Do u think that’s the culprit?

Wildsteedworx
Yes, if its rough, it needs to go PERIOD. That is true of any bearing.
It also doesn't look seated properly but could be camera angle

 

[Nwhicks21]

U say u may have an extra clutch laying around?

 

[Jersey Big Mike]

U say u may have an extra clutch laying around?

Have to dig down to it later today -- not sure how many clutch parts I have left. I know I have plates and more but don't remember what at this point.

 

[Nwhicks21]

Any luck on the clutch Mike?

 

[Jersey Big Mike]

Any luck on the clutch Mike?

Got one more pile to dig into. Been a little slow looking actually as I fell the other day doing a project and not moving as fast as normal (which at this point in my life is not fast at all anyway) Hopefully I can get to it tomorrow since I leave on Tuesday for Panama City Beach - Thunder on the Beach.

 

[Nwhicks21]

Ok no big deal either way, just gotta get something so lmk if you come across it.. I could probably use an inner primary also with the bearing if u got one. But lmk what u got, bc if not I’m gonna have to order one and I can’t really afford a new one. Thanks bud, hope u have a good time @ Panama!