Shifting to N, while rolling at speed?
- Thread starter mittens
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The last thing you want to do is cause excessive wear on both dog end tips and slot edges chunking off each other. That's more when the shifts don't mesh into each other and those few times at high rpm/speed. The other is the constant lever pull, the scrubbing of the clutch discs being again, too excessive, rather than coast in the higher gear, roll to a stop and begin to click the gears down to 1st or N.
Remaining in the higher gear: tends to slow down with said compression, less crankshaft lopping, less transmission/clutch wear, etc. It's all about parts preservation.
Remaining in the higher gear: tends to slow down with said compression, less crankshaft lopping, less transmission/clutch wear, etc. It's all about parts preservation.
mittens
Well-Known Member
I mean the dogs are ment to take soem hard hits... even clutchless shifting with the use of the spark cutter baker makes.. lets you keep the RPMs, no clutch and just kills the power.. so with the clutch pulled, the dogs shol dbe fine.. I was more worried about other parts but not sure what.
mittens
Well-Known Member
yea yea... this is not a argument of weather I should or not. just weather its hurting anything.
with a N 1 tranny I find my self sometimes being done rolling through the hood almost to the house or something and just going to N and coasting in.
BWG56
Guru
I'm always in N at a red light, but I do watch anything coming up behind me, and I never hold the brake on, I'm always tapping it at different intervals when I see a vehicle coming up to me from behind.Interesting. Is this a pressure switch, a one way switch meaning? I could see it run off the drum both ways. Anyway, back to wondering if you can time the throttle lift to rpm as smooth, and [as soundless as shifting up] with the kill and no clutch... then no problem there. If you are pounding that gear with the clutch in, you slow the other shaft with clutch in, right? You hear a louder bang into gears than shifting up, yes?... Then not a good idea. It has to sound seamless.
I'm going to assume the gearbox uses no oil pump like a big4 would. So yes, you are safe to coast: down the street, downhill, or coast down a mountain top, not a problem.
If the CHIP encourage bikes to split lanes [they clean up the freeways, know the stats], it's all about not being rear ended. So yes, pick a lane, any lane [must be between cars].
Coolbreezin
Active Member
I remember many years ago (when I rode a Ninja), the same subject came up about coasting in neutral. It was said not to do it at high speeds as it would cause bearing damage within the clutch/tranny assembly. Something about the oil not being able to get into the area or some crap like that. At the time, I was mechanically inexperienced so I just took it as fact. Now, with my Ridgeback, I coast in neutral below 15mph. Hope this helps.
francoblay1
The Spaniard
X2, I like to be always in the right gear just in case I have to get out of the way in a hurry!
Nukeranger
Nukeranger
When at a stop for a longer than a stop sign or light that just turned red AND it is safe, I'll sit in neutral.
BWG56
Guru
So do you stay a car length or so behind the car stopped in front of you? Or do you split lanes and sit on the berm?
Coolbreezin
Active Member
Lane splitting has always been illegal. I dont care what CA says.
http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2012/316.209
The only time I lane split is when the cars are being assholes and I have to hurry up and get to Hooters!
http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2012/316.209
The only time I lane split is when the cars are being assholes and I have to hurry up and get to Hooters!
BWG56
Guru
I'm with ya on that one Pete, I would never try it while moving, I'm just trying to figure out what these guys mean by lane splitting at a red light. Are they aside/between the cars that are stopped in front of them or off on the berm, or behind them in the proper lane, which is not lane splitting.Lane splitting has always been illegal. I dont care what CA says.
http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2012/316.209
The only time I lane split is when the cars are being assholes and I have to hurry up and get to Hooters!
Coolbreezin
Active Member
I operate off of common sense (no disrespect intended towards anyone). I have always and have taught my wife (rides her own) to position yrself behind the car to the side so you can see their face in their door mirror. Even if yr right on their ass you sill can get around them.
As mentioned, the big4 pump the freewheeler gears on the shafts so you can't coast. This will dry out the freewheeler and score the brass collar that is splined to the shaft. She heats up being static, the freewheeling gear is meshed so it continually moves. Only way to coast a big4 down a mountain is to keep the engine idling, or kill it and start it occasionally.... my MO.
There are a few common sense points of splitting in Ca. It' s all about safety.
I split in freeway traffic, time is time, gas is gas, more should ride and unclog the freeways.
I split up to a traffic light... as long as another car [think firetruck/ambu can drive thru on the far right side, etc., you are in no violation...[lots of traffic school questions]
I split up to that traffic light with dead engine... look left to right... eyeball the yellow, note the left turners in front of me have the green first, so I sit and wait with dead engine... no one is going to rear end me being in the front of the line between cars.
I split in the city streets sitting at that the limit line, knowing... no vehicles are going to time that light and run it, my peripheral at the yellow changing to red... bike is in gear... the green times in with my old drag racing days... I hit the start button... the torque on this fucking bike is an 8 second kind of 1/4 miler... shit, do I have yards of nothing around me in 3 seconds or less... LOL
And you should hear the nasty bark off the car doors when this engine revs up... it says, 'get the fuck outta my way... and stay back there... OR ELSE!'
The rest of you 48's are missing the boat. You should all make a split the lane day in protest across the country.
There are a few common sense points of splitting in Ca. It' s all about safety.
I split in freeway traffic, time is time, gas is gas, more should ride and unclog the freeways.
I split up to a traffic light... as long as another car [think firetruck/ambu can drive thru on the far right side, etc., you are in no violation...[lots of traffic school questions]
I split up to that traffic light with dead engine... look left to right... eyeball the yellow, note the left turners in front of me have the green first, so I sit and wait with dead engine... no one is going to rear end me being in the front of the line between cars.
I split in the city streets sitting at that the limit line, knowing... no vehicles are going to time that light and run it, my peripheral at the yellow changing to red... bike is in gear... the green times in with my old drag racing days... I hit the start button... the torque on this fucking bike is an 8 second kind of 1/4 miler... shit, do I have yards of nothing around me in 3 seconds or less... LOL
And you should hear the nasty bark off the car doors when this engine revs up... it says, 'get the fuck outta my way... and stay back there... OR ELSE!'
The rest of you 48's are missing the boat. You should all make a split the lane day in protest across the country.
