Help!!! Seriously please help!

Energy One

BCombs

Member
Ok. I just went out and looked over things again. The ignition led on the EHC actually kicks on when I put the paperclip on the red and black wires in pcb header connector. What's this mean? The above reactions I listed above are the same as far as when I hit the start button it clicks and the headlight dims and the ignition module led kicks off.
 

blacktopper

Active Member
Ok. I just went out and looked over things again. The ignition led on the EHC actually kicks on when I put the paperclip on the red and black wires in pcb header connector. What's this mean? The above reactions I listed above are the same as far as when I hit the start button it clicks and the headlight dims and the ignition module led kicks off.
Can you check the voltage at the battery terminals when you hit the start button. Sounds like a low battery or bad connections.
 

BCombs

Member
Hey blacktopper. I hope you are right. Can I ask you two things ? First where would I be able find replacement parts for the pcb if needed and what battery do you recommend. The battery I have is about three years old. Never actually used to ride. It has a trickle charge on it and says it's fully charged but.... Let me know man. Much appreciated.
 

Little-Boo

Well-Known Member
Troop Supporter
. The battery I have is about three years old. Never actually used to ride. It has a trickle charge on it and says it's fully charged but

BINGO you just solved your own problem. The Battery needs to be replaced. It may show a full charge but does not have enough juice to turn the motor over. I never keep a battery for more than 2 years, I don't like to push. Get you a Harley Battery like brew suggested, they run about 100 bucks or so and charge it for 24 hours on the trickle charger or slow charge for 24 hours and your dog should start.

Carlos :old2:
 

BCombs

Member
I'll get the battery today and let you guys know. I really appreciate all the help! You guys are great.
 

francoblay1

The Spaniard
I am , by all means, NOT an experienced wrencher... but I do mantain a K9 in Spain... if it wasnt for this Forum I can assure you I would not have her anymore.... Now I have a TOP K9!!!

I am going to tell you something.... very basic.... Connections: Clean & tight, Clean & TIGHT!!!

Get a good battery in there (Minimum 310 cca) and you will be good to go.

Read/Click on my Signature Block: Maintenace is........!

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BCombs

Member
Following your advice fellas. Just ordered a Braille B2015 battery. From what I've read that bad boy should do the trick. Real quick while anyone is reading this... Does the ignition module led light come on when the key is turned on or does the act of pushing start turn it on? Reason I ask is since I used the paperclip to jump the wires in the pcb to get the ignition module led to kick do I still possibly have an issue with the pcb getting power to the ignition module?
 

blacktopper

Active Member
Following your advice fellas. Just ordered a Braille B2015 battery. From what I've read that bad boy should do the trick. Real quick while anyone is reading this... Does the ignition module led light come on when the key is turned on or does the act of pushing start turn it on? Reason I ask is since I used the paperclip to jump the wires in the pcb to get the ignition module led to kick do I still possibly have an issue with the pcb getting power to the ignition module?
The ignition module light comes on as a result of pushing the run button. You may still have a problem with the pcb start switch
 
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BCombs

Member
Gotcha blacktopper. Just waiting on the battery.ill keep you guys informed on what happens. One again thanks for your guys help!!!
 

BADOG

Active Member
I have an 05 Pitbull. Needed a new EHC and managed to find one. Put it on and was eagerly anticipating to hear her start up. No luck. On the EHC the power light is on and the control light flashes green. When I attempt to start the air ride mode light comes on for a brief time. No other physical signs of anything...no clicks, no dimming of the headlight, nothing. All lights illuminate strong but when the start button is pushed no signs any juice is being pulled from anywhere. Any help, suggestions , any help would be appreciated. Please keep in mind I am not handy at all but I'm willing to try with some assistance. Thanks in advance.
When mine went the entire PCB behind the start button had to be changed also. It was fried.
 

MossBerg590

Active Member
Just to clarify, If your talking about ignition light on ehc, it should come on when u hit run, led on ignition module, when you hit start. Good choice on battery. Hope it solves your problem.
 
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Ohmster

Kansas Motorcycle Works
As posted it sounds like you have a battery issue. You can have a "fully charged" battery showing on a tender but until you do a load test on it you wont know for sure. You could have 12.8VDC at the battery but it could have enough sulfate build up the CCA has dropped from say 400 CCA down to 100 CCA and that is no where near enough to spin a starter over on a big twin. Hopefully the battery solves your issue. As for the PCB board it could be a couple of things. It could be a loose connection between the header connector and the terminals on the PCB itself. If your careful you can extract each terminal, one at a time, out of the header connector. This is done by taking the same paper clip and in the top window of each terminal on the header connector, pushing down gently the bend in the lock tab. Then take the extracted terminal and take some needle nose pliers and gently squeeze the terminal to slightly bend in the side of the terminal to tighten the connection. You also might have one of the four mounting screws shorting out part of the board. Vibration over time on the mounting screws might of caused the board to wear around the mounting screws and the internal traces in that board pass really close to the mounting screws. I like to take liquid electrical tape and with the pcb removed, add a nice thin layer around the mounting holes. Let it dry then reinstall the board.

As for the paper clip test you can use it on all your inputs there at the PCB. Take the paper clip and jump the black to the red. This will turn on the LED on the EHC to show ignition power out. At the same time it will turn the red LED on the ignition module. Unless its a 2004 then it depends on where the cam sensor is positioned at and might not show a red LED until you hit the start input. Anyways, after jumping across the red wire and getting the appropriate LED's illuminated, then you can jump across the black to the green. This will engage the starter as long as you stay jumped across the two wires. You can also jump black to brown to engage your turn signal, black to orange to engage your hand brake input and black to blue to turn the ignition system off. You can do the same on the left PCB. Black to white for high beam, black to yellow for low beam, black to violet for left turn signal and black to gray for horn if you ever want to confirm whether or not you have a PCB issue or not.
 

BCombs

Member
Blacktopper I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge. I hope others can learn from your posts as much as I have. That goes for you other guys as well. I really appreciate it. As far as my update... Waiting on the battery to arrive still. I ordered it on Friday from a company less than 2 hours away( free shipping so why drive there and waste gas) the battery was picked up less than an hour on FedEx , processed and actually on the delivery truck Saturday morning at 6:18. I tracked throughout the day to see the status. Nothing Saturday so I figured for sure today..WRONG.. The tracking status says no attempt was made today and it's now scheduled for tomorrow. Not impressed with the delay especially when it was in a delivery truck Saturday to be delivered. Not good Fedex not good. I'll post once the FedEx fairy delivers. Thanks again guys.
 

blacktopper

Active Member
We will get you running again. There is an immeasurable amount of knowledge on this forum. I would say there is nothing about trouble shooting Big Dogs that can't be figured out by a combination of members here.
Ohmster, thanks for your last post. I saved it as a screen shot for when I need it. Info like that is so good to have.
 

BCombs

Member
Ok... Put the new battery in cranked really well but would not start. After a few attempts it would just click when start was pushed and then all four turn signals came on as if the bike has hazards. EHC led for ignition still comes on solid when attempting to start....any ideas fellas?
 

Unsprung

In the Potters hand...
Dumb question here and I know I'm the new guy but do you have spark at the plugs while cranking? If timing is good, fuel is flowing and you have spark it should start unless there's another issue like no oil pressure or bad run switch. Just MHO...disregard my rambling if checked prior.
 
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