A few concerns....

[Raywood]

Hey, am I the only one looking at this? Doesn't anyone have something else to say? Ya, I'm an "old fuck" but I have been around the block for over 50 years with bikes and own a successful software business for the last 30 years... We need to question all these "promotion" guys who seem to have an easy answer....

Did I meet you at Daytona when I was there a couple years ago with all the BD guys Bill? Just asking. I'm a 30 yr retired Navy vet and have no reason to lie.
I just like having fun and was trying to put this thread to bed. It's ran its course.


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[BadDawg Bill]

Did I meet you at Daytona when I was there a couple years ago with all the BD guys Bill? Just asking. I'm a 30 yr retired Navy vet and have no reason to lie.
I just like having fun and was trying to put this thread to bed. It's ran its course.


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I don't think so Ray since I just found BD bikes. I would never call you a liar and since you are a founding member I have respect for your thoughts, knowledge and opinions. I was just confused over Curtis's posts and yours. I think this thread is an eye opener for many members and needs to be told. To shut it down now would leave the impression that the new kits are the "best thing since pussy" and I as well as other members don't think that and to be fair to all we need to have different opinions and discuss our options. I think this thread will lead to a better "kit" and system for all members because the truth is coming out and as hard as that is to swallow it needs to be told.

Ride safe my friend...

 

[Raywood]

I don't think so Ray since I just found BD bikes. I would never call you a liar and since you are a founding member I have respect for your thoughts, knowledge and opinions. I was just confused over Curtis's posts and yours. I think this thread is an eye opener for many members and needs to be told.

Ride safe my friend...

Cheers Bill

Hey I may work with Curtis part time but I don't get paid cause I hide my residency from Kalifornia so they don't tax my retirement that I live on. I just like doing something now a days besides yardwork!

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[BadDawg Bill]

Cheers Bill

Hey I may work with Curtis part time but I don't get paid cause I hide my residency from Kalifornia so they don't tax my retirement that I live on. I just like doing something now a days besides yardwork!

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So you are an "old fuck" too. You know what I'm saying and it's for the betterment of the members. The more you know the better off you are. :up:

 

[TapioK]

Hey, am I the only one looking at this? Doesn't anyone have something else to say? Ya, I'm an "old fuck" but I have been around the block for over 50 years with bikes and own a successful software business for the last 30 years... We need to question all these "promotion" guys who seem to have an easy answer.... I know that spending a grand on a wire system is hard for anyone and if you do you should be satisfied you are getting your moneys worth and not throwing it away. You guys up North can spend your money and lose a year worth of riding if it fails... The bottom line is "will your controls hold up and will you be able to replace them at a reasonable cost? Will the new system work and be dependable or will you be stuck on the side of the road? I'm just trying to help you all out.

Bill,
I do belive you are not the only one reading this thread, and I also believe:

-Ray's bike has nothing to do with RIP issue. The first KMW sold in USA has problems taken care under warranty, so? Why should Ray be whining about it here?

-Andrew telling about the problems in Sweden was OK, we now have heard the answers from others, issue cleared? Great?

-There has been a shitload of threads about options to replace EHC, great.

-KMW is giving us one more option, great.

-Many companies do buy parts from outside suplier, doesn't make financially much sense to manufacture everything by yourself. Specially when it's not your core business.

-Donna and Derek are about to get full stock of switches,Great. I have no reason to believe they did not order enough of those to fill the demand. They may even order more at some point, if there is demand? Great

-It's difficult to reach them, sad. But at least hundreds of us have manage to buy parts from them...Great.

-One might even consider doing the same thing with switch as many do with gas, buy more before you run out. Have a pair in your shelve just in case you need one and don't have time to wait for a mailman.

-Or rewire, who cares. There are no rules, no one right way to go. There is even one wanker in Florida who is making his own gas caps!

-It would be really nice to get a report and see pictures here how your route paid of. How you made it and how it looks, maybe even what was the initial cost and how long it took.




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Tapio

 

[TapioK]

Oh, tapatalk made a mess of my post, who cares.


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Tapio

 

[pauly]

As some of you guys know I have bought one of the RIP kits for my EFI Mastiff a while back. Because I haven't recieved installation instructions with the kit, I have removed most of the shrink wrapping in order to feed the harness up the backbone one connector plug at the time. :bang:
Everything else works no problem. :2thumbs:

Here is what I think:

If the module fails, replacement is only about $250 :2thumbs: (you already have the harness) and if you want to change to Harley controls later on- no problem there are instructions in the Thunderheart manual how to connect it to the switches.
Win win situation in my opinion.

I only wish that I got the installation instructions with mine and got it installed properly!

Paul.

 

[bigdogtech01]

Hey, am I the only one looking at this? Doesn't anyone have something else to say? Ya, I'm an "old fuck" but I have been around the block for over 50 years with bikes and own a successful software business for the last 30 years... We need to question all these "promotion" guys who seem to have an easy answer.... I know that spending a grand on a wire system is hard for anyone and if you do you should be satisfied you are getting your moneys worth and not throwing it away. You guys up North can spend your money and lose a year worth of riding if it fails... The bottom line is "will your controls hold up and will you be able to replace them at a reasonable cost? Will the new system work and be dependable or will you be stuck on the side of the road? I'm just trying to help you all out.

I'm reading it all now and all I can do is shake my head. Notice how this small group of guys all join together all at once? I brought Raywood and his KMW bike into this from the start. The post titled "A few Concerns" few meaning the RIP, KMW and KMW bikes. It was NOT just about RIP kits. The most was written about the RIP kit only because I saw it first hand and have not seen or worked on any KMW bikes (because only 1 is here in US, the rest are overseas) So why would I focus and entire post on something I have not worked on??? I only mentioned it because there are way too many cover ups going on with this site.
Dragan states that HE purchased all 10 units when in fact he only purchased 3 and Per the other 7. That's what I was told while there and nothing had changed since then. You can't call me a liar for telling what I saw and heard!!!!!!!! You don't even want to get me started on who is lying about what Mr bouhous!!!!!!!! :angry:

 

[Guillaume]

I like this forum great :2thumbs:

 

[BBChopper]

:Yawn:

 

[D L]

I want quality parts!!! I like the Big Dog hand controls and in no way want to swap out to Harley hand controls.

What about the BDM Performance Parts EHC rewire kits? Did someone else step up and start making them?

 

[rottie1]

I also have nothing but respect for both Andrew and Curtis I have oreded parts from both of them and had nothing but great service from both. I bought and installed the RIP kit on bike cause it seemed like the most cost effective and straight forward way for me to go and get back on the road and I must say the kit was a truley plug and play system. I did however have to wait for one wire to be sent to me that didnt get sent that went to the coil. but overall IM happy with the kit and havent hadany problems out of it to this point.

 

[Fibersnake]

No I have a PDM also and is is still holding up well with for 3 years or so, probably close to 15k on it.

If it breaks going old school

The EHC worked fine and failure I had were not directly related to EHC, I still have a working one that I took off to install and try out the PDM.

Soooo....I guess I am the only one with a PDM now?
I think the forum should be open to these conversations to let people decide their own fate.
The only thing that hasnt been addressed (and an attempt at correcting) was the bad customer service from techs at KMW. If the owner wants to know about problems...this is it. I have no experience with them, but most people agree they are rude and talk down to you. Fix that, and even with problems, you will sell a lot more products.

 

[Fibersnake]

Just will jump in on one of the issues that also came up here and that is BigDogPartsKing-i.e. Derrick and Donna.

I have also order from them in the past and most recently this week. Yes sometimes they are hared to get a hold of on the phone or via email, but they will get back with you if you stick to trying to contact them.

My most recent order was for a 2005 Mastiff Dash, they have been very good about getting me the info, sending picture and even trying to find a part that also goes with the dash that is so unusual, it is like looking for a needle in a haystack.

In fairness a few times trying to get back with them but all good. Not sure of their situation, buy understand it basically a 2 person operation and if so, can understand the delays in getting back since they take care of shipping, ordering, inventory as well as working on MC also. So if true delays can be expected.

For me my dealing with them were very good and am glad that they are there for the odd part such as my dash, for it will be hard to find such propritery parts other places. Past order has included the BD Oil cooler and stash tube, new headlight housing and bulb, spare pucks for the lights, and odds and ends parts for stock.

Just wanted to put my 2 cents up from my experience with Derick and Donna and Bigdogpartsking.

Nothing to sell, no dog in the fight, appreciate info being passed so folks can make their own decisions.

 

[bearman]

The switches ….. what do you do when they fail?... .

Then you’ll have to make another decision. You can buy the high-priced replacement, or re-do the bars and switches. The Thunderheart brain will work with ANY switches.
One option I haven’t seen mentioned is to just take your circuit board from your hand control to your local electronics tech and have him repair or rebuild it.

.... Your (RIP) "system" isn't complete unless you have replacement switches……

I’m going to have to disagree with you on that. It doesn’t come with a new headlight or blinkers or a new starter either, but what it supposedly does come with is everything you need to replace your old EHC ( a new computer box and the wiring harness for the new computer that is supposed to be plug in and go). The PDM kit from BDM was similar in that it came with the wiring harness that already had the plugs on it.

……. and I have posted 3 times now for someone to show me a link where I can buy both sets of switches at a reasonable price……

I think that the high price is only unreasonable when you don’t need one. If you NEED one, then it isn’t so bad (compared to new bars and switches).

.... at some point you will lose your high/low beam, horn and left turn signal.....

The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Doom and gloom.
At some point we all are going to die, but I’m not going to keep worrying about it all the time.
If it isn’t broke don’t fix it (customizing isn’t fixing).
Prepare for emergencies, plan for contingencies, then live and see what gets in the way next.

Full disclosure ; I have a spare left hand control circuit board that I bought over 2 years ago (soon after joining this board and learning that the sky was falling). While it seems that most problems are with the right control circuit board, the right one was expensive even back then, so I bought the cheap left one to use for parts to repair the right one. It is still in the original packaging (since my sky still hasn’t fallen yet).

Full disclosure 2; I am currently running the original EHC with over 22,000 miles. I have an M-Unit (by Motogadget) electronic control box, sitting on the shelf to replace my EHC when my sky falls. I bought that over a year ago and don’t plan on installing it until I need it (or I get a second one for a spare).

 

[mastiffdave]

Since Matt and kmw didn't make the big dog ride in Sturgis to show off his bikes and since the attendance of Sturgis was way off from last year in general. I have a idea and a open invitation to Matt and kmw .
Bikes blues and BBQ is coming up the end of September and it has the possibility of passing the attendance of Sturgis . So instead of paying the 1500.00 to 5000.00 fee to get into a good vender spot, I say kmw bring some bikes down . I'll ride one all week and give a honest opinion of the bikes on review. I know there will be big dogs represented from all over the states and even some from Finland .
What say you Matt ? You can even park the truck and trailer at my farm or heck I'll even meet you half way.
There won't be a bigger event for you to go to this year and since there is only one bike in the states at this point to compare , bring some kmw bikes down here.

 

[pknowles]

Since Matt and kmw didn't make the big dog ride in Sturgis to show off his bikes and since the attendance of Sturgis was way off from last year in general. I have a idea and a open invitation to Matt and kmw .
Bikes blues and BBQ is coming up the end of September and it has the possibility of passing the attendance of Sturgis . So instead of paying the 1500.00 to 5000.00 fee to get into a good vender spot, I say kmw bring some bikes down . I'll ride one all week and give a honest opinion of the bikes on review. I know there will be big dogs represented from all over the states and even some from Finland .
What say you Matt ? You can even park the truck and trailer at my farm or heck I'll even meet you half way.
There won't be a bigger event for you to go to this year and since there is only one bike in the states at this point to compare , bring some kmw bikes down here.

Sure sounds like a good idea and a very generous offer David:up:

 

[bigdogtech01]

Since Matt and kmw didn't make the big dog ride in Sturgis to show off his bikes and since the attendance of Sturgis was way off from last year in general. I have a idea and a open invitation to Matt and kmw .
Bikes blues and BBQ is coming up the end of September and it has the possibility of passing the attendance of Sturgis . So instead of paying the 1500.00 to 5000.00 fee to get into a good vender spot, I say kmw bring some bikes down . I'll ride one all week and give a honest opinion of the bikes on review. I know there will be big dogs represented from all over the states and even some from Finland .
What say you Matt ? You can even park the truck and trailer at my farm or heck I'll even meet you half way.
There won't be a bigger event for you to go to this year and since there is only one bike in the states at this point to compare , bring some kmw bikes down here.

Good idea :2thumbs:

 

[mastiffdave]

Good idea :2thumbs:

I got another idea for ya Matt!!!! 330 dan is still running his ehc (my old ehc)
And is wanting to do a rewire like Dakotabos did.

Let's put a rip kit on it before bbbbq and let him run it all week and review it. He and Splitlog are professional mechanics and operate the largest gmc shop in the area so a rip kit should not be any problem for us to install. That way maybe we can sort out any issues with the rip kit on unbiased people.

Not trying to get in your business but just putting some offers out there to sort out this thread.:2thumbs:

 

[Matt Moore]

I got another idea for ya Matt!!!! 330 dan is still running his ehc (my old ehc)
And is wanting to do a rewire like Dakotabos did.

Let's put a rip kit on it before bbbbq and let him run it all week and review it. He and Splitlog are professional mechanics and operate the largest gmc shop in the area so a rip kit should not be any problem for us to install. That way maybe we can sort out any issues with the rip kit on unbiased people.

Not trying to get in your business but just putting some offers out there to sort out this thread.:2thumbs:

Hi Dave. I think that is a great idea to do a 3rd-party review on the RIP kit. Give me a call and lets put it together. BTW...We were bummed we couldn't meet up with you in Sturgis. I got stuck in a vendor meeting. I am going to try to make it to BBBBQ. I will keep you posted.