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RRRUFF

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Does anyone here know of a good way to remove the NECK Bearing outer race on a 06K9?:job: Any ideas welcome!
 

RRRUFF

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There is no way to get a drift behind it. The outer race sits in a bearing cup and the cup ID is smaller than the ID of the outer race.
 
PARK TOOL STEERING RACE REMOVER | MotoSport

•Makes head tube bearing race removal easy.
•Tool is pulled through the steering tube until the flared ends snap in behind the race, a blow on the tool head removes the race.
•Fits most brands with 35-55mm bearing races.
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Overall: 3 out of 5
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Location: Senatobia, MS
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works on some Date: October 4, 2009
"I would love to say that this tool works great. But unfortunately it didn't work at all on my CRF 450. The steering tube on the aluminum frame Honda's is a smaller diameter than the races. This means the "fingers" on the tool would have to have a bend in them. Tool was incorrect shape to work in this situation. I would have bent the fingers myself but the tool is made out of spring steel. Would probably work awesome on other brand bikes or even older steel-framed Honda's." 1 of 1 people found this review helpful.Was this review helpful to you? Yes No (Report Inappropriate Review) Share this Review:

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Works GREAT! Date: April 2, 2008
"Just got this tool tonight, had both races out within 5 minutes. I had to use a mallot vs. the little hammer they show but it busted them out no problem. A must have for the tool kit!" Was this review helpful to you? Yes No (Report Inappropriate Review) Share this Review:


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I don't see how that could work. As stated the bearing cup is a smaller ID than the race and there is no lip on that that could catch the race.
 

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john sachs

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Fast,sure,easy way,IF you have access to a welder.:2thumbs:
Cut a piece of 1/4" flat strap that fits in the cup/race.Weld both sides,and nail it with a drift from the opposite end.
It's also the way I remove valve seats.:eek:
John
 

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BadBrad

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I have to tell ya, that John knows some shit! :whoop:
John, I want to tell you right here and now that you were always right and I was definitely confused when I first questioned your knowledge about how a piece of valve guide could get into the the oil tank.:confused: Hell, I was green and still am but I always question due to my lack of knowledge. :D After I told you not to get your panties in a wad, other forum members told me who you are..........the guy with a lot of answers. :2thumbs: When I joined BDB just a short while back, everyone was a stranger but some less than others. Since I've been reading your replies (because you obviously don't have any questions), you've been spot on (Is that the right termilogy Lee? ) That's the closest thing I can do for an apology. Damn holidays always make me soft! :job:
 

john sachs

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C'mon Brad.I never had any hard feelings towards you.:)I like to talk shit every once in a while also.I am no different,or smarter,than anyone else on this website.I have a passion for what I do,so I try to be good at it.:D
John
" Merry Christmas and Happy New Year "
to all.
 

Moespeeds

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The Jims tool is what I use, but I borrow one so I'm not sure what they cost. In a pinch, could you get a piece of stiff strap, bend it into an open "V", then fit it in there and tap it straight? It should pop the race, but might nick the cup a little.
 

Five Five

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Fast,sure,easy way,IF you have access to a welder.:2thumbs:
Cut a piece of 1/4" flat strap that fits in the cup/race.Weld both sides,and nail it with a drift from the opposite end.
It's also the way I remove valve seats.:eek:
John

good idea on the valve seats :2thumbs:
 

john sachs

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The Jims tool is what I use, but I borrow one so I'm not sure what they cost. In a pinch, could you get a piece of stiff strap, bend it into an open "V", then fit it in there and tap it straight? It should pop the race, but might nick the cup a little.
I've seen that "tool" crack/break.:angry:
If you look at the races I removed by welding,you'll see that the strap actually bends.The races are installed with a healthy interference fit.Realize also,when you're welding the strap in,the race shrinks between the weld.So to answer your question,NO,it "ain't" coming out with an unwelded bent V.:(
John
 

BadBrad

2005 Pitbull
I've seen that "tool" crack/break.:angry:
If you look at the races I removed by welding,you'll see that the strap actually bends.The races are installed with a healthy interference fit.Realize also,when you're welding the strap in,the race shrinks between the weld.So to answer your question,NO,it "ain't" coming out with an unwelded bent V.:(
John
In the words of "TheDeadOne" who makes himself look smart by agreeing to John Sachs,......"I concure"

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RRRUFF

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Got them out tonight! Will post in the "How to". This is what the bearings looked like in the neck of the 06K9. John I did think of welding a flat washer that was small enough to fit down into the race, then tap out with drift but was using this as a last resort. I was afraid of putting voltage into the frame. I would have unplugged the EHC and disconnect the battery but these BD's are so electrically temperamental didn't know what would happen. I made a wedge out of a piece of key stock and got them to move.

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Five Five

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Got them out tonight! Will post in the "How to". This is what the bearings looked like in the neck of the 06K9. John I did think of welding a flat washer that was small enough to fit down into the race, then tap out with drift but was using this as a last resort. I was afraid of putting voltage into the frame. I would have unplugged the EHC and disconnect the battery but these BD's are so electrically temperamental didn't know what would happen. I made a wedge out of a piece of key stock and got them to move.

Top Old Outer Race


Bottom Old Outer Race
Ruff....thanks for posting the pics....see the difficulty with it now....look forward to the "How To"
 

Five Five

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Does anyone here know of a good way to remove the NECK Bearing outer race on a 06K9?:job: Any ideas welcome!
Ruff....what's prompting you to change them out....I never had a set wear out....so I was wondering what the tell tale signs were ?

*interference, roughness ?
*wear, play ?
 

RRRUFF

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Ruff....what's prompting you to change them out....I never had a set wear out....so I was wondering what the tell tale signs were ?

*interference, roughness ?
*wear, play ?
My manual says to inspect, adjust, & repack them at 10k miles. As you can see in the picture there is some damage to the bearing races mostly from corrosion. These bearings take a lot of stress and you could feel some popping when turning the bars side to side, so we decided to change them.
 
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