EHC ISSUE?
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bdmridgeback
Low Down Chop Shop
My replacement HID kit draws 3.5 amps compared to the Stock 55/65 watt bulb drawing 5.0-5.5 amps.
The HID draws almost half the current as the stock bulb.
I have had 4 bikes that the software locked up but after it was taken out, the EHC worked fine. It won't damage anything.
BDM factory even did some testing of my kit and told me the same thing, the software will only do a temp lock up, but not harm anything.
The Trike Haus in Fort Myers has been having me install HID kits in 2008 and 2009 bikes on the showroom floor before thay even are sold. They have never had one come back with a EHC issue.
That dealer has to prove that the HID did cause it in order to not cover it under warranty per the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.
They can't void a warranty unless they prove that something caused the problem. Your EHC went south just because it was having a bad day, not the HID.
jimizee028
TRUE COLORS COLLISION
it doesnt matter what dealer you go to you voided the warranty by changing something in the electrical system...you need not worry bout everyone else and what they do,most of them if not almost all of them are outta warranty,and guess what if they started having issues that were electrical theyand still under warranty i would bet my bottom dollar they would have pulled the HID kit prior to having the bike towed to dealer......i had electrical issues,took my HID kit out before takin the bike in cause common sense told me the dealer could and would see it as a problem....the only one you should be mad at here is yourself for not thinkin this through all the way....
Buildem
Member
My Dealer took out the horn on my bike trying to eliminate extra electrical components..But it still didnt help..Still blew another EHC and 2 batteries since...A different mechanic at the dealer found the wires for the horn and automatically told BDM I had evidence of extra electrical devices on my bike...The mechanic apologized when I told him what they were...The Dealer didnt document it on my bike when they took it out so it was a easy"out" for BDM. Make sure if you have ANYTHING electrical added to your bike to not let the dealer find out..They even Sell these things but I was never warned about it...But i guess i should of read my owners manual word for word...Read the fine print..And I actually dont have or never have had lights on my bike...
the last i talked to the dealer they removed the hid and it was ok but they wanted to due some further testing. he said as soon as he hooked the hid back my electronics went haywire. i feel jakes product is nice but not compatable with MY bike.
i understand your product draws less voltage and this is what i told the dealer. the way it was explained to me is the ehc is designed to run on a certain voltage and when you change that you have issues. trust me i to am bummed it won't work cause it looks awsome!
thanks, tim
bdmridgeback
Low Down Chop Shop
It is a software fault in some of the 06 and 07 EHC's that they lock up in a loop.
The HID will not and never will burn up the EHC. It has a low and hogh voltage protection in it that shuts it down. The EHC is fine and it just needs power unhooked from it and the stock bulb put back in and it will be back to normal... If you call the EHC normal.:loony: Don't let the dealer blow smoke up your ass.
BDM electrical tech even told me after they had tested my HID kit at the factory that the older software had issues that would cause it to lock up. It wasn't in the 04 and 05 bikes, and seems to be fixed in most 08 and all 09 bikes.
I had told you in your PM that I'd refund the money back to you if you returned it to me.
Your bike just needs the updated EHC with the newest software in it to be able to run it.
jake,
as i told you i'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. i will be call ing bdm direct concerning this. i just hope you are right.
tim
scubaman15
Well-Known Member
I'm confused?? My 07 with older software ? works fine with the HID . Was it just his bike or the software ? "It is a software fault in some of the 06 and 07 EHC's that they lock up in a loop." Is it a glitch ? :loony:
well.... bd corporate is telling me it is positively not the ehc software that's causing my issues. i had the dealer do additional testing (different bike, new battery, new ehc.etc.)and no good. corporate told me it is possable that my headlight wiring has a slighty different resistance than others. that was the answer they gave me when i asked "how come others are running this and i can't?" i had to send my stock bulb back to the dealer. hopefully they will bring my bike back tomorrow:up:. there is a slight possability that i hav a bad hid but it seemed fine. i should be sending my hid back for jake to test on mon. or tues.
hth, tim
bdmridgeback
Low Down Chop Shop
If it is a deal with the EHC, It will lock up the first or second time the key is turned on. If it works the first time or two it is in it for the long haul. I can't say that I recall EVER having someone that the HID worked fine for months and then the EHC locked up... Never has happened that I recall. This HID ballast is VERY sensitive to picking up on voltage. Too high, too low or if there is a short in the circuit, the HID will go into shut down into protection mode.
The ones it doesn't work on, the HID ballast is getting a low voltage from the EHC and goes into protection. After it does that, the EHC software gets locked in a loop and in order to get out of it, the battery needs disconnected.
No damage if that happens, just that the ballast isn't compatable with a EHC with a bad circuit in it. Install the stock bulb and run factory. So far I have only had about 2-4 out of every 100 kits I have sold to Big Dog owners not work with a faulty EHC.
I had one guy that the HID did this same thing quite some time ago and after a couple weeks of working trying to figure it out, he told me that his speedo hadn't worked for months and he had an appointment to get it swapped out that week. After the speedo was changed the HID worked fine. The HID ballast was picking up on that and going into protection and then the EHC was locking up because it wasn't seeing a headlight bulb installed basically.
stlmikie
I wish I had more money.
Jake have you always used the same ballast? I thought that at one time you couldn't fit these into a old style bucket. Now we can right.
bdmridgeback
Low Down Chop Shop
I have been using the micro digital ballast for as long as I have been selling them. They have always fit in the bucket.
stlmikie
I wish I had more money.
Were you out down off of Midrivers Dr. Sunday night Bradley? I thought I saw your bike with another black BD and what looked like a harley.
imthewildman
Member
my bike done some of the same things, it was the ground cable that went to the case from the battery, replaced cable and some of the lights stayed on even with the key out, that little spike burned up part of the ehc, I just put a toggle switch on the main lead wire to the ehc (cause Im tired of giving bdm all my hard earned cash) and turn it off when I turn off the key(to keep the battery from going dead), everything is working fine now, its not factory but hell, it works now.