K9 vs. Honda Fury...?

Tim · Jul 21, 2009

Gas Man said:
Yeah but like you said... many barely used big dogs for $15k or less for the older ones. So I guess its

$15k for used bdm with more power and looks with maintance needed

$13k for a new honda fury with no power and less looks

Your choice.

I totally agree, and I would have opted for more motor, far better looks, a big bike and American made. :flag:

stnick · Jul 21, 2009

Gas Man said:
Yeah but like you said... many barely used big dogs for $15k or less for the older ones. So I guess its

$15k for used bdm with more power and looks with maintance needed

$13k for a new honda fury with no power and less looks

Your choice.

I agree the BDM is the better choice if you want a custom styled bike. I would choose the BDM hands down, all day long.

However, when did approximately 60 HP at the wheel become no power? Ironically enough, you know what other engine makes similar numbers in stock form? Harley's 96B. 284 more CCs and yet only makes approximately 6 more RWHP in stock form because of the crappy EPA restrictions. I rode both and the Fury pulls harder than all of the stock 96B Harleys that rode.

While 60 HP isn't anywhere near the amount a Dog makes it is enough for many riders. Many of riders have logged many miles on bikes that produced less power.

stnick · Jul 21, 2009

BubbleHead said:
I totally agree, and I would have opted for more motor, far better looks, a big bike and American made. :flag:

Customs like Big Dog are the closest thing you can to truly American made so I agree on that account. I was glad to pay to support a truly American made bike.

However, many people still believe that Harley are 100% American... Bull shit. I love Harleys but I don't believe for a minute that they are not guilty of outsourcing and offshoring to save a nickel like other large corporations.

I am sure many of you know that many metric bikes and cars are actually built on domestic soil and do support American workers.

Anybody have any idea how many American workers would be out of work if companies like Honda stopped doing business with the United States?

Tim · Jul 21, 2009

stnick said:
I agree the BDM is the better choice if you want a custom styled bike. I would choose the BDM hands down, all day long.

However, when did approximately 60 HP at the wheel become no power? Ironically enough, you know what other engine makes similar numbers in stock form? Harley's 96B. 284 more CCs and yet only makes approximately 6 more RWHP in stock form because of the crappy EPA restrictions. I rode both and the Fury pulls harder than all of the stock 96B Harleys that rode.

While 60 HP isn't anywhere near the amount a Dog makes it is enough for many riders. Many of riders have logged many miles on bikes that produced less power.

You do know the Fury is water cooled, right?

I don't believe the numbers have anything to do with EPA because Honda has to meet the same standards.

And part of owning a custom/chopper is having both show AND go.

Tim · Jul 21, 2009

stnick said:
Customs like Big Dog are the closest thing you can to truly American made so I agree on that account. I was glad to pay to support a truly American made bike.

However, many people still believe that Harley are 100% American... Bull shit. I love Harleys but I don't believe for a minute that they are not guilty of outsourcing and offshoring to save a nickel like other large corporations.

I am sure many of you know that many metric bikes and cars are actually built on domestic soil and do support American workers.

Anybody have any idea how many American workers would be out of work if companies like Honda stopped doing business with the United States?

OK, is the Fury built in the States???

My Fury Arrived Today! - Honda Fury Forums: Honda Chopper Forum

stnick · Jul 21, 2009

BubbleHead said:
You do know the Fury is water cooled, right?

I don't believe the numbers have anything to do with EPA because Honda has to meet the same standards.

Yes, I do know the Fury is water cooled, shaft driven, and fuel injected. After 10 years or more of no riding, a few months ago I decided to get back into riding. It so happened Honda was releasing their Fury. I always liked customs so I purchased one on impulse. Was it a good bike? Yes. Was it for me? No. I'm not a big fan of all the plastic and as you said earlier I do prefer the show AND go. However, the Honda Fury serves its purpose for many riders. It provides them with a reliable, custom look-alike bike for a decent price. It is a great entry for many into the custom market. It can only help Big Dog sales because people now have an upgrade path.

The numbers that a Harley makes DO have to do with EPA restrictions. They are tuned really lean from the factory and because of it they lose power and are extremely hot. Only after adding an exhaust, air cleaner, a remap or fuel management unit do they start to make respectable power for the displacement.

The Honda Fury is actually tuned rich from the factory. It is subject to the same EPA restrictions but yet makes similar power to a motor with almost 300 ccs more displacement. So saying a 1300 VTX makes no power is similar to saying a Harley makes no power.

BubbleHead said:
And part of owning a custom/chopper is having both show AND go.

I agree for the most part. However, the above statement isn't entirely correct. Many guys build their own customs with much less motor than comes standard on the Big Dog. The reason behind this isn't always money. I've seen many customs bobber type builds with 80 cubic inch motors because in a rigid style bike they don't vibrate as bad and it provides them plenty of power.

stnick · Jul 21, 2009

BubbleHead said:
OK, is the Fury built in the States???

My Fury Arrived Today! - Honda Fury Forums: Honda Chopper Forum

No it is not. I never said it was. However, many VTXs are produced in a manufacturing facility in Ohio.

I think you are missing the point. Regardless of where the bike comes from, Honda provides many Americans with jobs. I can guarantee Honda puts more food on American's tables than all of the custom American built manufacturers put together.

I am a patriot. My wife and I both served our country in the United States Navy. My wife and I both still work for the US government. I love my country and the opportunities it provides for me and my family. I always try to buy American when I can.

Like many Americans I often shop at places like Wal-mart because of the convenience. I know that place has literally become China-Mart. Many people come on the web touting their pro-american stance and then go shopping at Walmart in the evenings. I highly doubt that many of the people are shopping on main street and supporting mom & pop shops exclusively.

In this day and age it is almost impossible to always buy American because so much of our manufacturing has moved offshore. This is because greedy corporations looked to raise profit margins by employing cheaper labor and cutting manufacturing costs.

I was walking around a biker store the other day looking to buy some boots and gloves. I always check labels to see where an item is manufactured before I purchase. I was shocked, though I shouldn't have been, when I saw all of the Harley Davidson gear was made in China. I'm not sure if my facts are straight or not but I've heard Harley makes more on gear and accessories then they do on bike sales. If this is true, then it would be accurate to say that Harley is guilty of stimulating the Chinese economy more than the American economy. Do I still love Harley bikes? You bet your ass I do.

spiderjason · Jul 28, 2009

My 2 cents is this the yamaha Raider looks better than the honda fury. It seems like they should have compared the fury vs Raider but is was kinda cool to see the K9 in the magazine. I subscribe to that mag because I also have a yamaha R1.

Roaddawg · Jul 28, 2009

The local Honda dealer told us that the Fury has a limiter on it to restrict speed to 90mph. Any attempt at going faster causes the engine to quit.

KnotSo · Jul 28, 2009

Yeah, like anyone needs to go above 90mph anyway

:roll::roll::roll:

I think I saw one this weekend.
Looked like a lil pocket bike made by Mattel with the front end extended, quiet, with a fugly looking radiator on the front of the frame?
Not for me, but some will buy it just because it is a Honda, others will buy just cause they do not want to be associated with you bad ass bikers, yet others are just cheap bastards trying to impress their friends who do not know any better, and then there will be a few who genuinly cannot afford anything more yet want desperatly to get in the wind on a new bike and who will eventually move up to a nicer bike when they find the love of riding, still some may buy furby cause these big, full size loud bikes scare the hell out of them.

There is a bike for everyone out there, for most of us, the furby is NOT that bike, but some have lower standards and furby may well suit them. To each their own. All bikes are fun, some are more fun than others.

Just my thoughts

Tim · Jul 29, 2009

spiderjason said:
My 2 cents is this the yamaha Raider looks better than the honda fury. It seems like they should have compared the fury vs Raider but is was kinda cool to see the K9 in the magazine. I subscribe to that mag because I also have a yamaha R1.

If I went metric, Yamaha would be the only way for me. I had a Yamaha Wave Blaster waverunner YEARS ago and I beat the shit out of that thing... it never gave me a single problem. Yamaha makes some great looking bikes.

KnotSo · Jul 29, 2009

I have a near stock trx250r that we have owned for 20 years and it still runs great, and I still got my knotso stock atc pv350r (ex250r) that I have owned for over 22.5 years, and it runs far better than stock, with many stock parts. Have had other hondas over the years and several yammies. a stock warrior, a heavily modified 570 banshee, and wife has her yfz450 with nitrous that is now 5 years old and no issues.
the yaps make some super reliable stuff and I think the furby will do well in that market with it's low price, proven drivetrain, and brand name.

Seriously, Honda has an incredible reputation and that alone will help sell the pocket chapper

Baby Ray would do will with furby, and it is in his price range.

:roll::roll::roll: Then he could change his name to "Baby Furby Ray"

Tim · Jul 29, 2009

KnotSo said:
Baby Ray would do will with furby, and it is in his price range. :roll::roll::roll: Then he could change his name to "Baby Furby Ray"

:roll::roll::roll::2thumbs:

Tim · Jul 31, 2009

Now this is REALLY funny to me...

Fury Motorcycles... BDM dealer

South St. Paul, Minnesota, Big Dog, Motorcycle, Dealer, Used, Parts, Service, Custom, Financing

Roaddawg · Jul 31, 2009

Honda must have snatched the name from them. Fury motors has been around awhile. This is the dealer where I purchased my Chopper and Kevin (Thumper29) just got his K9. Great dealer, friendly, will work with you and do whatever they can for their customers and their techs (especially Jeff) are super knowledgeable about the 'Dogs. I would highly recommend Fury Motors to anyone, for sales, service and support.

bdmridgeback · Jul 31, 2009

BubbleHead said:
OK, is the Fury built in the States???

My Fury Arrived Today! - Honda Fury Forums: Honda Chopper Forum

Off that thread...

"I really like the color. The pictures do it no justice. It looks like Jesse James himself designed the thing."

:roll::roll::roll:

Source = westcoastchoppers

Who does Japan turn to for some design inspiration? None other than yours truly...Jesse James & Company at West Coast CHoppers. This is one of two bikes we created at the request of Honda Motorcycles. We were honored to be the only private manufacturer they turned to when they wanted a fresh take on a sport bike. They gave us free reign to come up with the kind of sport bike we would want to ride. The only request they made was to paint it Honda red.

They were so thrilled with the results of this one that they asked us to make a 2nd chopper style bike that morphed into what is now the Honda Fury. It was a high security project, so we don't have photos of the process we can share. But if you call any of the team that worked on the bike down here we can certainly point out the components that were used wholesale, and the areas where the engineers at Honda tamed it down for mass market.

*EDIT* I never knew West Coast Choppers hand a hand in the bike till the quoted brought it up, prob why the bike looks so damn good Thanks guys, nice info to have.

GoofyTexan · Jul 31, 2009

I can't believe you guys are talking about this piece of shit...

bdmridgeback · Jul 31, 2009

stnick said:
Like many Americans I often shop at places like Wal-mart because of the convenience. I know that place has literally become China-Mart. Many people come on the web touting their pro-american stance and then go shopping at Walmart in the evenings. I highly doubt that many of the people are shopping on main street and supporting mom & pop shops exclusively..

Lets talk about wal mart then!!!

I have been into wal-mart 2 times since I moved to Florida 4 years ago... and those two times were to buy fishing licenses!!!

I stay away from that sh*t-hole and always shop and the Mom and Pop shops. When we go out to eat we always try to eat at the small mom and pop joints as well.

I hate supporting the big guys and always try to help out the small guy.

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