Bigdog had another lay-off today

DragginH

Active Member
Now hold up. When I tried to cut a deal on a 09 K9 at a dealership in Daytona last month I was told that BDM sales were fine. In fact I was told point blank that there was no recession and that BDM has not experienced any slump in sales. So whats the real story here?
You must have been speaking to Carl Morrow @ Carl's Speed Shop... :lol:
 

REMorris

OK Rider Shakey
I know we are talking rigid pitbull, but I want to throw in my 2 cents.

I have had my 09 Mastiff over 120 and it was rock solid. But I will do that only on a known piece of road. Never even had a hint of wobble.

I think the Mastiff is fine at whatever speed you would throw at it. I suspect the K9 would be about the same.

Richard
 

rip

Well-Known Member
I hope BDM makes it also. I believe they will make it everyone needs to trim the fat business's & individual's. I do believe they have a great product but you must also move the product and if it's not moving reduce the price until it does and that included parts & accessories which probably has more fat in it than anything.

Believe me I have a computer company that supports new car dealers so you can imagine we are losing dealers every month, but because we are the little boy's on the block we can lower our prices and dealer's are lining up, actually as far as new business we are covered up. What I'm getting at is I would like to have 3/4 of what we were making than 0.

Anyway enough rambling just my 2 cents. BDM has a great product and everyone wishes they could own one. I don't want to settle for second best.
 

RCAdd1ct

JAFO
So they have to sell 3 a day.

There are not 3 people a day that can shell out the money they want.

What if they had to sell 5 a day, but they could sell them for the cost of a Harley......and they made 75% profit on clothes.

Hell HD is a clothing store...oh yeah, they sell bikes, too.

And get rid of that damned EHC. Call it something else. Put a wires plus in it WTF ever, just don't give potential buyers the EHC argument.
 

Fibersnake

Banjo Playing PsychoBilly
Well I sure hope that BDM is able to make it through the rough times, but regardless if they do or not, still love my bike and plan to keep it going as long as possible, regardless of factory support or not.

Interesting on the so-called disgruntle employee remarks. See 80,000 plus warrenty on 25,000 bikes, that is a mena of 3. Do not see that as that unusal for a MC or auto.

EHC issues, could be better, but still going strong on my third (keep in mind the first was changed under a TSB, the second was changed due to my fault by bending a pin during reassembly of the harness).

3 a day for a 5 day week is 15 per week or 780 a year, seems doable. Major problem as pointed out is folks getting the financing, credit is very tight for many and even with excellent credit, the lending institutes are looking at the numbers a great deal more in detail then the high flying days of just a 18 months ago.

Lee is right and makes a good point for the European and oveseas folks have had to deal with no factory support since the get go, but with the help of the people on here, they are still riding and smiling on the joy of the BD. BTW Lee you ever hear of anything from that man Jen that came here and bought the K-9. Never see him on here!
 

heems

Member
I want to know more about this issue with the pitbull front end wobble. Sounds like this guy is VERY pissed. If they were going 98 mph and hit a bump with a rigid frame, what do you expect. Dont be a dumbass. I will say that I have hit some bumps on the interstate running about 75 and I thought that I was going to lose it completely. Has anyone else heard this or is it this pissed guy just spreading false rumors
I have experienced a slight wobble doing 65 over a bump on my pitbull... didn't feel like I was going to lose it though... the ride is solid.

I love this bike. I have found out that you need to listen to it though. I mean, let it talk to you... :) These are not bikes that you just ride without care... but I like to think of it as character. Hope Big Dog pulls through. Their bikes are unique and true to their purpose.
 

Biker Babe

Queen Bee
Calendar Participant

jax

Member
I have experienced a slight wobble doing 65 over a bump on my pitbull... didn't feel like I was going to lose it though... the ride is solid.

I love this bike. I have found out that you need to listen to it though. I mean, let it talk to you... :) These are not bikes that you just ride without care... but I like to think of it as character. Hope Big Dog pulls through. Their bikes are unique and true to their purpose.
Same here heems... I have had my Pitbull wobble a couple times at 75+ when I have hit a bump. But that it part of the thrill of having a rigid. Each time, however, the bike settled back down and ran solid. That is just part of the whole Pitbull/Ridgeback experience. Riding a rigid has been awesome. Everything about it has been more than I hoped for. Going back to a softtail would be like riding in a convertible now. Keep up the great work BDM and don't go anywhere!
 

waykool

Banned
It seems to me that BDM could save them self’s and the consumers some money by going to a smaller motor and transmission. Honestly how many of you here take your bike over 90 plus miles an hour. At 75 to 80 miles an hour mine feels like it’s going to fly apart on me. Or they should at least offer this as an option to cut cost.
 

Fibersnake

Banjo Playing PsychoBilly
I am not sure that if they cut down the size and tranny, that it would save all that much money. Regardless if it did or not, would not want to see them start heading that way, love the 117 and Baker 6 speed.

There is many others that will sell a Rev Tech engine and some clone tranny to save a few bucks.

As it is now, I can get a quality bike, with lots of power, quality componets from Baker to PM, very much a head turner in any crowd for mid 20's starting which is cheaper than some of the HD (such as their starting price for the CVO bikes) and still getting bigger, badder and overall nicer.

IMHO it is the economy and the state of such with the decrease in getting credit as easy that is the unlying problem and not the bike itself.

The days of taking a second loan on the house because it unrealistically went up in price 100% in 3 years and then using that loan to buy a nice bike, a new boat, or other toys are over. To make it worse as the economy fell, so did those values of the house but the loans remained as the jobs decreased and things went up.

Makes it harder for many that may have been able to buy early to do so now also for many, makes it harder for some to keep the bike due to loss of jobs, inability to get additional funds, etc.

Especially true for items like BD that are luxary and not estential. Rough days ahead for many and it will not turn around over night.
 

waykool

Banned
True. But BDM could drop in the 96ci S&S motor for almost half the cost of the 117 and still prouduce a kick ass bike.
 

Raywood

The Pirate
Staff member
Calendar Participant
Troop Supporter
True. But BDM could drop in the 96ci S&S motor for almost half the cost of the 117 and still prouduce a kick ass bike.
Yes but since 01 or 02 BDM selling appeal has been Big motors, Fat tires and Long bikes. I'll bet BD is getting those S&S motors at a pretty good prices though same with the Baker transmissions.

Another way of looking at it is why doesn't HD come out with a K-9 style bike? :lol:
 

Marco Polo

Newbie DELUXE
It seems to me that BDM could save them self’s and the consumers some money by going to a smaller motor and transmission. Honestly how many of you here take your bike over 90 plus miles an hour. At 75 to 80 miles an hour mine feels like it’s going to fly apart on me. Or they should at least offer this as an option to cut cost.
I don't know, I go over 90 reguarly myself. Besides that though, I like the launch of a larger torque motor. :whoop: I would think there would be additional expense in gearing up to handle 3 different motors as well so it may not even save anyone much money anyway. If you look at how cheap some other bikes are I think we're paying a lot for the style and because what we ride is built in such low quantity also more then paying for one motor over another. Then again, if you look at base price on the '09 Wolf versus a Mastiff maybe the motor really does make a fairly big price difference... Still, I think if you downsize the motor you'll be competing with $16K Victorys next thing you know. If people want a cheap Big Dog there's already the Coyote to pick, if they build anything cheaper then that I'd rather he just start a different brand.
 

Fibersnake

Banjo Playing PsychoBilly
True. But BDM could drop in the 96ci S&S motor for almost half the cost of the 117 and still prouduce a kick ass bike.
Well they may save a few bucks, but keep in mind that BDM is not paying MSRP for these and even if they were, the difference between the MSRP on a 96ci for a V polished is right around $7135 and the equivillent for a 113 is a little over 8K (117 not a stock S&S listed), hard to say half the cost! Even the 124 is just over 2k MSRP over a 96. Buying through a legit dealer would be even less.
 

vej

Active Member
It seems to me that BDM could save them self’s and the consumers some money by going to a smaller motor and transmission. Honestly how many of you here take your bike over 90 plus miles an hour. At 75 to 80 miles an hour mine feels like it’s going to fly apart on me. Or they should at least offer this as an option to cut cost.
Hey, I'm not trying to be an A-Hole.... but grow a set!

ej :flag:
 
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