Selling my 2007 K9...needs work

[ChopperJeff]

OK, I am done with my current 2007 K9!!!

Will sell "as is" for about $4500.

When I say "As is", it currently has these issues:
- EHC is only partially functioning, as it does not power the speedometer
- Right side battery cover is gone
- Needs front tire (maybe rear too)

History of the bike is as follows:
- Purchased the bike used a few years ago from out if state. Went thru California DMV hell to finally get it registered
- Starter had issues due to ring gear being loose and various seals were leaking. 5 grand later I got all that replaced, along with upgraded starter
- Clutch cable has been replaced twice
- LED headlight installed. "Beauty" ring for the headlight is not so beautiful anymore due to frustration in removing it.

Maybe I'll have a change of heart once I cool down, but I just got done messing with it and am currently fuming over the utterly stupid design of this thing! Just truly sick and tired of it all!

I just put in the new EHC which is the Electroniks.de one, and yeah, it fried, having smoked a few days ago. Got it from wild steed worx, but see that they only honor the warranty if the entire charging system has been upgraded. Of course I didn't do that, as why the fuck wouldn't the stock charging system be OK? Are you telling me that fucking Big Dog cannot make a trustworthy charging system? WTF?!??!!?

Anyways, yeah, I'm still fuming, and if someone were to say "here's 4500 bucks, I'll take it 'as-is'", then by golly, IT'S YOURS!!!

 

[Shredder]

Any pics?

 

[ChopperJeff]

Any pics?

Here is one that was taken right after I bought it. Now it has a different sissy bar and bag, but this gives you the gist of it.

Oh, and currently it’s missing the right side battery cover.

 

[kickstart]

It's worth way more than what you're asking in Parts!

 

[ChopperJeff]

It's worth way more than what you're asking in Parts!

Thanks! That thought had actually crossed my mind.
Perhaps I’ll get the bike repaired and sell it for something closer to what it’s worth.

So frustrating that such a beautiful bike has to be ruined by the poor engineering of Big Dog.

 

[Mickmorris]

Thanks! That thought had actually crossed my mind.
Perhaps I’ll get the bike repaired and sell it for something closer to what it’s worth.

So frustrating that such a beautiful bike has to be ruined by the poor engineering of Big Dog.

So did you do the work installing the new EHC from Curtis? Do you have an inline fuse between your VR & your battery? Do you an inline fuse between your new EHC & battery? If you have those two inline fuses it shouldn’t matter at all about your charging system. If either has a surge it should blow the fuse before any damage takes place. Also ONLY the speedo is not functioning correctly? Everything else works fine? I’m just trying understand what actually happened. I sure hope you can get it fixed and keep your amazing K-9. Thats a beautiful bike. I do remember your other posts about getting it registered in California.

 

[ChopperJeff]

So did you do the work installing the new EHC from Curtis? Do you have an inline fuse between your VR & your battery? Do you an inline fuse between your new EHC & battery? If you have those two inline fuses it shouldn’t matter at all about your charging system. If either has a surge it should blow the fuse before any damage takes place. Also ONLY the speedo is not functioning correctly? Everything else works fine? I’m just trying understand what actually happened. I sure hope you can get it fixed and keep your amazing K-9. Thats a beautiful bike. I do remember your other posts about getting it registered in California.

Thank you for the input! I will need to check on the fuse situation. I would imagine the stock bike would have those fuses, correct? Guess there's always a chance the previous owner removed them.

I know it has that main circuit breaker as I just replaced that not too long ago due to one of the terminals being loose.

Before this latest failure, only the speedometer and odometer stopped working. The tachometer still worked fine, as did all the other lights on the speedometer, such as the neutral indicator, turn signals, and headlight lo/hi beam indicator.

Then several months ago, my voltage regulator fried, going up in smoke, and then of course the bike would not start. Apparently that destroyed something within the EHC as the headlight would not work, with only about 4 volts coming out of the EHC to the headlight instead of the expected 12 volts.
That "original" EHC was the Electroniks.de one. I replaced it with a new Electroniks.de one , and the headlight then worked, but still no speedo or odometer.

The latest issue was when I noticed something smoking right after starting the bike, and the smoke appeared to be coming from underneath the battery box. After that, the speedo was totally dead, as in "no more tachometer". The front running lights also do not light up, though the turn signals and brake lights are still OK, along with the headlight.

Anyways, bottom line is that I KNOW the Electroniks.de EHC is the cause of the tach not working as hooking up the original Electroniks.de EHC has the tach working OK.

Oh, you asked if I got the EHC from Curtis. Is he from Wild Steed Worx? This is where I bought:
BIG DOG EHC 05 to 11 CARB VERSION 3 Big Dog Motorcycle EHC Replacement 05 and Up [000-00058C-V3] - $599.00 : WSW, Rule Your Ride!

 

[Snuffy]

No they didn’t come stock with the fuses and need to be added if you don’t have them. I would think that you did something wrong possibly when installing the new ECH and fried it. Hence the smoke cloud when you started it. The axle ECH has made our bikes reliable IMO. Hope you get it worked out. Although I would buy it at that price quick , I would encourage you to see it through. If you still don’t want it then you can sell it for a decent price. Good luck

 

[Mickmorris]

Thank you for the input! I will need to check on the fuse situation. I would imagine the stock bike would have those fuses, correct? Guess there's always a chance the previous owner removed them.

I know it has that main circuit breaker as I just replaced that not too long ago due to one of the terminals being loose.

Before this latest failure, only the speedometer and odometer stopped working. The tachometer still worked fine, as did all the other lights on the speedometer, such as the neutral indicator, turn signals, and headlight lo/hi beam indicator.

Then several months ago, my voltage regulator fried, going up in smoke, and then of course the bike would not start. Apparently that destroyed something within the EHC as the headlight would not work, with only about 4 volts coming out of the EHC to the headlight instead of the expected 12 volts.
That "original" EHC was the Electroniks.de one. I replaced it with a new Electroniks.de one , and the headlight then worked, but still no speedo or odometer.

The latest issue was when I noticed something smoking right after starting the bike, and the smoke appeared to be coming from underneath the battery box. After that, the speedo was totally dead, as in "no more tachometer". The front running lights also do not light up, though the turn signals and brake lights are still OK, along with the headlight.

Anyways, bottom line is that I KNOW the Electroniks.de EHC is the cause of the tach not working as hooking up the original Electroniks.de EHC has the tach working OK.

Oh, you asked if I got the EHC from Curtis. Is he from Wild Steed Worx? This is where I bought:
BIG DOG EHC 05 to 11 CARB VERSION 3 Big Dog Motorcycle EHC Replacement 05 and Up [000-00058C-V3] - $599.00 : WSW, Rule Your Ride!

So as Snuffy stated…no BigDog didn’t actually have any inline fuse between the VR & battery. They did have the circuit breaker but that could be reset by pushing a button and not actually fixing what caused it to pop. On your new EHC it should have had a inline fuse built into it. That line needs to be connected to the battery directly not to the circuit breaker that you have inline between the VR & battery. You said you smoked your VR so you would have needed to replace it I assume? Yes Curtis is Wildsteedworx. Bigdogpartskingpin carries an inline fuse setup that eliminates the circuit breaker. That definitely needs be replaced. Unfortunately it sounds like something definitely got cooked in the new EHC. Certainly wish you the best in figuring it all out. I would definitely recommend getting this fuse setup & ditch the circuit breaker.

 

[ChopperJeff]

No they didn’t come stock with the fuses and need to be added if you don’t have them. I would think that you did something wrong possibly when installing the new ECH and fried it. Hence the smoke cloud when you started it. The axle ECH has made our bikes reliable IMO. Hope you get it worked out. Although I would buy it at that price quick , I would encourage you to see it through. If you still don’t want it then you can sell it for a decent price. Good luck

I don't see how I could have done anything wrong when installing the axle EHC as the "original" one was an axle EHC, and thus I just literally unplugged the old one and replaced it with this one. It also worked fine for several weeks. Well, except for the speedometer and odometer, but I figure that is not related to the EHC as when that was replaced, the speedo still did not work.
I'm thinking either the speed sensor is bad, or a wire in the speedo came loose.

 

[ChopperJeff]

So as Snuffy stated…no BigDog didn’t actually have any inline fuse between the VR & battery. They did have the circuit breaker but that could be reset by pushing a button and not actually fixing what caused it to pop. On your new EHC it should have had a inline fuse built into it. That line needs to be connected to the battery directly not to the circuit breaker that you have inline between the VR & battery. You said you smoked your VR so you would have needed to replace it I assume? Yes Curtis is Wildsteedworx. Bigdogpartskingpin carries an inline fuse setup that eliminates the circuit breaker. That definitely needs be replaced. Unfortunately it sounds like something definitely got cooked in the new EHC. Certainly wish you the best in figuring it all out. I would definitely recommend getting this fuse setup & ditch the circuit breaker. View attachment 140378

Very interesting regarding the fuse! I will certainly look into getting that.

I emailed Curtis and he put in a warranty claim to the makers of the EHC. Sort of doubt they will end up covering it though as I have the OEM charging circuit which apparently voids the warranty. Was nice of Curtis to try it though. Seems to be a pretty good guy.

Curtis also said that no system out there can tolerate the OEM charging system. Is it really required to change out the entire charging system, which would include not just the VR, but the stator as well?

 

[chubs]

Very interesting regarding the fuse! I will certainly look into getting that.

I emailed Curtis and he put in a warranty claim to the makers of the EHC. Sort of doubt they will end up covering it though as I have the OEM charging circuit which apparently voids the warranty. Was nice of Curtis to try it though. Seems to be a pretty good guy.

Curtis also said that no system out there can tolerate the OEM charging system. Is it really required to change out the entire charging system, which would include not just the VR, but the stator as well?

Your point that Curtis "seems to be a pretty good guy" is pretty spot on! Having had the opportunity to meet him, I will say that he is a very good guy and runs an honest and upstanding business keeping these bikes on the road.

 

[Mickmorris]

Very interesting regarding the fuse! I will certainly look into getting that.

I emailed Curtis and he put in a warranty claim to the makers of the EHC. Sort of doubt they will end up covering it though as I have the OEM charging circuit which apparently voids the warranty. Was nice of Curtis to try it though. Seems to be a pretty good guy.

Curtis also said that no system out there can tolerate the OEM charging system. Is it really required to change out the entire charging system, which would include not just the VR, but the stator as well?

Yeah I sure don’t see how changing the internals would make any difference if they are functioning properly. I would think just the OEM VR would need to be replaced with a new upgraded one. Of course I could be wrong & probably am!

 

[ChopperJeff]

Yeah I sure don’t see how changing the internals would make any difference if they are functioning properly. I would think just the OEM VR would need to be replaced with a new upgraded one. Of course I could be wrong & probably am!

I did replace the VR which was purchased from www.bigdogpartskingpin.com, and is the "Big Dog Motorcycles Black Voltage Regulator all 1994-2011 Models"

Maybe it's not considered an "upgraded" version, but their web site says this about it:
"The system will work with the stock stator rotor and stock wiring system on the bike.
These high quality units have solid state circuitry and high performance components that guarantee superior performance and reliability 32 amp 12 volt"

 

[Mickmorris]

I did replace the VR which was purchased from www.bigdogpartskingpin.com, and is the "Big Dog Motorcycles Black Voltage Regulator all 1994-2011 Models"

Maybe it's not considered an "upgraded" version, but their web site says this about it:
"The system will work with the stock stator rotor and stock wiring system on the bike.
These high quality units have solid state circuitry and high performance components that guarantee superior performance and reliability 32 amp 12 volt"

Make sure Curtis knows that too. I have a friend here in Florida with an ‘04 chopper. He replaced his electrical system with the RIP kit from BigDog.net. Couple days in on running it had issues with the signals. Sent it back to be tested and it was an internal failure. They sent him a new one. Now he’s back on the road. Hope everything works out in your favor!