Key Switch!

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Coolbreezin

Active Member
I have seen quite a bit on these threads about key switch. is there a better one out there that looks like it should be there? LOL i have put a lanyard on mine but when you turn it doesn't feel like it clicks in solid. would that be a good indication that i should be thinking of replacing it and is the newer 5T one big dog has any better?
I had a marine key switch installed under the seat on the sidecover. Acts exactly like a car ignition.
 

mleach72

Well-Known Member
Oh it gets better...Now not getting power to the starter..... I was hearing the compression releases click!

:oldeek: .................maybe this could be a problem!

Going Drinking!
Mine looked exactly like yours did. It started causing problems. This might be your problem.
 

HMAN

I just like my Freedom
Supporting Member
Any recommendations for a replacement?
Find a local shop that does alternator/starter repair. These shops can be tough to find nowdays. They should be able to fix ya up. I was lucky, there was a crazy Russian 2 doors down from the OG factory. He was their go-to guy. Took the starter in and he knew exactly where his replacement parts were. I sure dont know how. The place was a total pigstye. Wish he was still around.
 

Snuffy

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Supporting Member
Back in the day most towns had a alternator/starter repair shop. Sadly these disappeared long ago with many other shops like this. Sadly we live in a throw away society now. Things are made so cheaply is easier and cheaper to just buy a new one. I miss the old days. I remember my grandparents having a microwave from the 50’s that was still running strong in the 90’s. And a ceiling fan that was the same. Hell it’s probably still going strong today. Those were the good days when people made things to last.
 

flcmcya

Active Member
I was troubleshooting this morning and I get no voltage to the green wire on the starter..... the red light is on regarding the ignition module.
I also noticed only my front turn signals work but not the rear lights....after I replaced the green wire I got one rear back!...... any thoughts on that weirdness.
Jumped green to starter and no crank but don't think my battery was 12.8 , so have her charging.



Just trying to sort things out before sending in my EHC.
 
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Mikeinjersey

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Oh it gets better...Now not getting power to the starter..... I was hearing the compression releases click!

:oldeek: .................maybe this could be a problem!

Going Drinking!
The click you have been hearing is indeed the Compression releases. That is normal operation and is momentary (about 1 second) when the start button is depressed. At the same time a voltage is sent to the starter solenoid to crank the engine and will continue until the button is released. The 1 sec release is to take a load off to help the starter get going. You need compression for the engine to start which is why the release time is short.
Unplug the green wire from the starter solenoid and read it while you activate the start button. If you hear the compression releases and get voltage on the wire at the same time your EHC is functioning correctly. Since your issue is intermittent test it a bunch of times. If you test well move on to the starter solenoid and check inside. Sometimes the input wire gets fractured but usually that would cause a solid failure.
If you don't get the voltage ( 8-12vdc) but you do hear the compression releases your failure is the EHC. This may sound silly but it's true! When you are experiencing the failure remove your seat and warm up the EHC with a hair dryer while still checking for the voltage. You may also see a fault indicator light. If once it's warm it starts working that pretty much confirms your EHC is acting up. Pull the connectors off and clean and regrease and check for bent or backed out pins.
Of course, make sure your battery connections are clean and tight. Don't forget the ground to frame side of the - cable.
 

Mikeinjersey

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Funny what you find poking around......What is that wrapped in yellow electrical tape! :spank:


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What bike do you have? I looked at one of your old posts and I thought you had a K9. A stock k9 does not use a start relay if that is what this is a pic of.
If so you may be barking up the wrong tree with the EHC from Axel. His EHC is plug and play and a great unit but if this relay is in the starter circuit someone changed the wiring so it may not work with it.
Also if that is a start relay maybe that is your issue. You may want to do a little more research/troubleshooting before installing the new EHC. You can private message Axel to see what he thinks.
 

flcmcya

Active Member
For sure.......Add this to the post above......Put in a new relay and nothing.

K9 LE....pretty sure its stock....... pulling the starter for a test as well.
 

Mikeinjersey

Well-Known Member
For sure.......Add this to the post above......Put in a new relay and nothing.

K9 LE....pretty sure its stock....... pulling the starter for a test as well.
Did you follow my instructions in post # 31 ? Did your Compressions releases stop clicking ? I may be wrong but I believe the 2007 K9 Limited Edition has the same wiring as non LE model. Take a picture of your EHC, it may have been changed before you got the bike and if so Axels EHC is not going to fix your problem.
 
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