Zirk (grease Fitting)??

[InDaDogHouse]

Hey guys, on my 04 Buldog, I tried adjusting the clutch. She keeps creeping when the bike is stopped and in gear. I did a search, and found some good info on adjustments. I am a newbie with bike repairs, LOL Great with cars. I had no play what so ever on my clutch lever. I adjusted the cable a few times and stilll the same. So i guess i need to pull the Derby cover and do the adjustment there. But when i follow the clutch cable down to the Baker 6 speed (where it goes in), there is a grease fitting behind the cover. It is a grease fitting right?? I would imagine if it is, it might need grease, and this could possibly be part of the prob. How do i know how many grease pumps to do? I hate to pull that cover off, since the exhaust is in the way of two of the allen bolts. I saw in here also that mobil one is the grease to use. Any other type of grease or brand recc.?
Thanks! Sorry for being a pain in the Fu++king ass guys, but still don't have a service manual and trying to search the forums and learn as much as possible about the Dog.
Later
Mike

 

[InDaDogHouse]

I actually just searched again, and found an excellent post on lubricating the rod etc. However I have to pulll exhaust to get cover off. Is that a big deal? any probs removing exhaust. Maybe i will just pump some grease into the fitting.
Thanks!
later
Mike

 

[stlmikie]

Sounds like you got it figured out!

 

[V]

No pulling the exhaust is easy. If you have two in to one pipes it might be good to have a extra hand. V

 

[RCAdd1ct]

If you pull the exhaust, make sure that you have replacement gaskets, and you get all the fingerprints off before you start it back up.

 

[bigdogtech01]

Hey guys, on my 04 Buldog, I tried adjusting the clutch. She keeps creeping when the bike is stopped and in gear. I did a search, and found some good info on adjustments. I am a newbie with bike repairs, LOL Great with cars. I had no play what so ever on my clutch lever. I adjusted the cable a few times and stilll the same. So i guess i need to pull the Derby cover and do the adjustment there. But when i follow the clutch cable down to the Baker 6 speed (where it goes in), there is a grease fitting behind the cover. It is a grease fitting right?? I would imagine if it is, it might need grease, and this could possibly be part of the prob. How do i know how many grease pumps to do? I hate to pull that cover off, since the exhaust is in the way of two of the allen bolts. I saw in here also that mobil one is the grease to use. Any other type of grease or brand recc.?
Thanks! Sorry for being a pain in the Fu++king ass guys, but still don't have a service manual and trying to search the forums and learn as much as possible about the Dog.
Later
Mike

If you adjust the clutch on the pushrod and then set your freeplay at the cable and the bike is still creeping you may need a new throwout bearing. This you will need to remove the exhaust system and the allen bolts that hold the cover into place. Pull the cover, exposing the pushrod and throwout bearing. The throwout bearing is a common Big Twin H-D style, it uses a small clip to retain it to the part of the pushrod. The bearing is inexpensive and you should pack it full of grease before you install it. It may be a good idea to remove it every 5000 miles or so to make sure it has enough grease in it.
-Also, when you are sitting a long time at a traffic light it may be a good practice to put the transmission in neutral rather than sit there with the clutch lever held in. Anytime you engage your clutch lever you are allowing that small throwout bearing to turn under load.

Make sure your clutch pushrod adjustment is set at 1/2 a turn out after slight drag. Set your lever free play at 1/8".

If after all this you still end up with creeping issues, you may have to dig in further and inspect the clutch plates.

 

[InDaDogHouse]

Wow, thanks. Seems simple. But complicated to me. I am going to grease the zirk first, and then loosen the cable, then pull the derby cover and adjust it. then tighten the cable back up till the clutch lever is right. Will I need a new gasket behind the derby cover? Or is it an o-ring. If so, where do I get it from. When i jack the bike up, and it is level, do I need to drain the primary? or can i just pull the derby cover,adjust and top off? If I need to remove exhaust, where do i get these gaskets from? Any bike shop?
Thanks
Mike
Thanks
Mike

 

[bigdogtech01]

Wow, thanks. Seems simple. But complicated to me. I am going to grease the zirk first, and then loosen the cable, then pull the derby cover and adjust it. then tighten the cable back up till the clutch lever is right. Will I need a new gasket behind the derby cover? Or is it an o-ring. If so, where do I get it from. When i jack the bike up, and it is level, do I need to drain the primary? or can i just pull the derby cover,adjust and top off? If I need to remove exhaust, where do i get these gaskets from? Any bike shop?
Thanks
Mike
Thanks
Mike

- O-ring behind derby cover, you should be able to reuse it. If not it is a standard softail primary so any gasket or seal you need will be the same as a late model Harley softail.
-If the bike is upright and level you do not need to drain the primary, it holds the same as a H-D, just 1Qt.
-The exhaust gaskets you should be able to get at any Harley type shop, make sure they are the tapered style, not the thin flat ones, the tapered one seal a whole lot better.

 

[InDaDogHouse]

Awesome info Bigdogtech01! Thanks man. I will do this adjustment next weekend when I am off. hopefully thats all it is. Thanks again!
Later
mike

 

[Raywood]

-The exhaust gaskets you should be able to get at any Harley type shop, make sure they are the tapered style, not the thin flat ones, the tapered one seal a whole lot better.

Many on here don't like the tapered gaskets. I would rather use the flat style and double them up. Many racers don't like the tapered ones either as I've learned from my research.

But your right that they probably seal better.

http://www.bigdogbiker.com/forums/general/11364-exhaust-gaskets.html

 

[InDaDogHouse]

If I end up having to remove the exhaust, I guess I could take one of the old gaskets with me to the Harley Dealer to match up. I am hoping to not have to remove it right now. I need to learn more about this bike. I really need to get a service manual. I downloaded a owners manual, but that isn't mush help. I am waiting on hearing from WB cycles in here on a price for a service manual. He was on Vacation until like the 15th of november I think.

later
mike

 

[lee]

you should get a HD softail manual - Haynes or Clymer. Much more detail in there and many of the processes are essentially the same

 

[InDaDogHouse]

Not a bad Idea lee. Thanks man.