XXX ???
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alhall88
UAW
I know they made a set of spacers to fill the gap when you remove your restrictor plates to keep the e carb. But when you go to a g carb and remove the restrictor plates you have to replace the manifold. I believe at that point you would then just use the 06 and up g manifold. I know sul has the part number but you can call easy enough to get that.
CCRainman
Well-Known Member
Sgt. They are talking about the XXX upgrade. I think you are talking about a brand new carb. The XXX doesn't come with an intake. They modify your existing carb for better tuning and performance.
T.Byrd
Well-Known Member
I know that you have to have a different intake for the G than the E.
And I would say that all 117's has the same cylinder height,and I also
know that the 05 models have different size valves,and different rocker
boxes,what I don't know is when you go from a E to a G is the 05 models
intake different than the others due to this.
And I would say that all 117's has the same cylinder height,and I also
know that the 05 models have different size valves,and different rocker
boxes,what I don't know is when you go from a E to a G is the 05 models
intake different than the others due to this.
txchopperguy
Well-Known Member
The Dog will run great with the "E", after the XXX treatment and removing the restrictor plates. It is more streetable and gives you better mpg than going with the "G". Then you do not have to buy the new manifold. Just my .02, but it is what I did on mine.
alhall88
UAW
Call big dog direct and get the manifold number. When I talked to them to get some part numbers this is what I was told. The stock s&s manifold for the 117 on the 04 models and the 07's and up were standard size. The 05 and 06 models had a big dog number on them and not an s&s number. Tell them your upgrading to a g and you need the part number. This was a very common upgrade that was done so it shouldn't be that tough.
so you guys are saying instead of ordering a g carb to replace my e carb on my 05 ridgeback i should go to xxxcarburators and buy the complete kit from them ? and with this combanation will it get rid of the restricter plates? whats the difference between a s&s g carb and one from xxx? thanks jim
Fibersnake
Banjo Playing PsychoBilly
delly,
There is a few different ways to approach the xXx upgrade, but a very common one is to go with a Super G Carb if you have A Super E. If you are going to go from E to G, you will need a different intake and as far as I know xXx does not provide that, thus you need to find one (evay are good sometime). If that is the case you can obtain the carb complete from xXx with the G, get it in and then send them your E and get refund.
What others have done, is stick with the Super E and just order the xXx Super E carb complete from xXx. When you get it, remove the restrictor plates on the intake (if it was not already done with like a exhaust change), install the new Super E xXx, mail them back your old one-get refund.
Fine tune the Super E as needed.
If you have not done a great deal of mods to the Engine (head, decking, bigger cam, etc). The Super E will give you a better overall ride carb. The Super G is better for the top end and high performance but allot of that benefits will not really come into play until you get it up on the upper end.
So if you want to smoke tires easier, lift the front, get that surge of power when you nail it more, The Super G may be the way to go, however if you are going to do that, it may be a good time to think of other mods. If you want to just get some decent performance over stock along with good overall ridability on the road, Super E with a xXx should do you fine.
Oh the xXx is offered in chrome and non-chromed and though I think the overall consensus is that the chrome from xXx is good, there can more issues with such. S & S does not recommend chrome due to increase possibility of erros from weaking the metals during the chrome and more likely have the process get in very small areas that could effect the tuning and operations.
Good luck with what everyway you go.
There is a few different ways to approach the xXx upgrade, but a very common one is to go with a Super G Carb if you have A Super E. If you are going to go from E to G, you will need a different intake and as far as I know xXx does not provide that, thus you need to find one (evay are good sometime). If that is the case you can obtain the carb complete from xXx with the G, get it in and then send them your E and get refund.
What others have done, is stick with the Super E and just order the xXx Super E carb complete from xXx. When you get it, remove the restrictor plates on the intake (if it was not already done with like a exhaust change), install the new Super E xXx, mail them back your old one-get refund.
Fine tune the Super E as needed.
If you have not done a great deal of mods to the Engine (head, decking, bigger cam, etc). The Super E will give you a better overall ride carb. The Super G is better for the top end and high performance but allot of that benefits will not really come into play until you get it up on the upper end.
So if you want to smoke tires easier, lift the front, get that surge of power when you nail it more, The Super G may be the way to go, however if you are going to do that, it may be a good time to think of other mods. If you want to just get some decent performance over stock along with good overall ridability on the road, Super E with a xXx should do you fine.
Oh the xXx is offered in chrome and non-chromed and though I think the overall consensus is that the chrome from xXx is good, there can more issues with such. S & S does not recommend chrome due to increase possibility of erros from weaking the metals during the chrome and more likely have the process get in very small areas that could effect the tuning and operations.
Good luck with what everyway you go.
surferdude
dry docked
What MPG did you get before the xxx mod? and now with the xxx mod on the E? thanks ... FYI ... I'm getting 50+ highway ... stock ... no mods ... yet.
Real stock including still running stock pipes and stock intake plus restrictor plates???
I got about 50 when I first got my 05 but soon removed the restictor plates then put on custom exhaust (Stainless Creations) and a wimmer elbow with cone filter and had Triple X modify my E carb (bore it out to 42mm).
I now get about 44-45 mpg avg on h-way, a little worse in town.
Later,
Ray
surferdude
dry docked
Woooops .... I did add a sidewider intake with a K&N filter and MM pipes right when I bought it new. So I don't know what it could be right out of the box. I have about 12k miles on it now so I think its about broken in. And last October we rode about 150 miles from Cottonwood Arizona to Phoenix and got 51mpg. I thinks that pretty good. So even if I get 45mpg on the h-way the performance upgrade to the xxx is worth it I believe. If I go xxx mod there's no cheap way to go back to what I have now. So I'm looking at the pros and cons of xxx, PSI ... or just leave the thing alone. I want a rideable (which it is now) but with a little more ummmfff ... why ... I don't know ... yet ...
I would say they probably pulled the restrictor plates when they put the intake and new exhaust on.
Doing the Triple X (as it's now called due to too many porn restrictions) will give you that little ummmfff you want and still keep up your mileage.
I just rode cross country (right past you) and did real good except with the heavy headwinds.
I have about 50,000 miles on mine now.
surferdude
dry docked
I put on the MM pipes and intake and didn't touch the manifold ... so I know that the restrictors are still there ... I think that the spacers came with the MM pipes but at the time I didn't know what they were. If I remember correctly I tried to put them on the exhaust and it didn't fit ... ok I hear the laughing ... and didn't put them on because they obviously didn't belong there and I think I threw them away. So now I'm looking for spacers to replace the restrictor plates. BD dealer was out of them ... I'm looking to call another dealer to see if they have them. thanks ...
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