Ultima motor

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williehead

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I have been looking at the Ultima motor primary and.trans. the motor is 131 ci and it has a matching primary and right side drive transmition. My question is dose anyone think that Ultima is any good because the motor is a lot cheaper than s&s and baker.
 

woodbutcher

Mr. Old Fart member #145
Staff member
what you need to look at is "will the 131 fit in the pitbull frame?" the jugs may be too tall to clear the frame/tank.
 
They are assembled in the US but the parts are Asian and there is a reason why they are cheaper.
As Wood pointed out earlier the 131 may not fit in your Pitbull frame
 

TomM

Member
I believe they're assembled here in St. Louis. I've always heard mixed reviews about their stuff,slightly more negative than positive,but I don't have any first hand experience with them.
 

Five Five

Well-Known Member
They had a problem with piston material that would expand under temperature and seize the motor. Make sure the motor has the upgraded pistons. I know a few guys that run ultima and there motors run good. Of course they have less than 20K miles on them. I don't. Know how many miles you can get out of there motors. I have learned over the years you get what you pay for
 

john sachs

Well-Known Member
I've done a lot of testing on Ultima motors when Ken Francis was in charge. I will say that they are as strong and reliable as any other Hi- po motor available. :eek:
Like any other manufacturer, you can't treat them like a 90 year old man on Viagra. :rolleyes:
John
 

07bigdog

07BIGDOG
Wow, that is a good price. Mine polished was over $10,000 in 2007. It was $2000 more to have a polished finish.
 

sics6

Active Member
I always thought the Ultima motors were good motors, they seem to make decent power also. I would like to throw a w6hf in a 124 s&s to see what that does
 

john sachs

Well-Known Member
Years of experience of working on, modifying, and building factory Harley Davidson, S&S, Ultima, and other aftermarket engines, has given me an education on the likes, problems, and dis-likes of what's available.
I'd like to set the record straight on Ultima engines.
1- Ultima engines are NOT made in Korea.
2- Ultima castings USED to be cast in the same foundries that cast the factory Harley Davidson engine parts, and also the S&S engines in the USA.
3- Ultima now uses the same foundry that does the casting for BMW, Isuzu, KTM, Honda, and Rotax. the reason for the switch is because they now use a superior permanent mold process. The alloy used is also superior/harder than the standard of the industry.
4- All machine work on the castings are done in house in the USA.
5- Flywheels are made in the USA, with the same rods used by Darkhorse Crankworks, Rev Performance, T-man Performance, and others.
6- Bearings, all are made by the same manufacturers as the others use.
7- Pistons are Mahle with Mahle rings. The smaller displacement engines use Ross pistons with Hastings rings. USA again......
8- Valves are Ferrea, beehive springs are from Performance Spring, guides are AV&V(Canada).
9- Cometic supplies ALL the gaskets, and seals.
10- Cam cover(nosecone) factory Harley Davidson.
11- Billit rocker boxes, and oil pump are made in house.

Actually there's more parts manufactured in the good ole USA than most of the other manufacturers including Harley Davidson.
Some facts:
1- I've never seen or heard of a stud pullout of an Ultima case.
2- I've never seen an Ultima head crack.
3- Ultima heads flow very well.
4- Ultima engines make very good streetabl power
5- Engines are priced right.
6- I am in NO way affiliated or paid by Ultima.

Hope this clears up the "stories". :cheers:
John
 

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Five Five

Well-Known Member
Years of experience of working on, modifying, and building factory Harley Davidson, S&S, Ultima, and other aftermarket engines, has given me an education on the likes, problems, and dis-likes of what's available.
I'd like to set the record straight on Ultima engines.
1- Ultima engines are NOT made in Korea.
2- Ultima castings USED to be cast in the same foundries that cast the factory Harley Davidson engine parts, and also the S&S engines in the USA.
3- Ultima now uses the same foundry that does the casting for BMW, Isuzu, KTM, Honda, and Rotax. the reason for the switch is because they now use a superior permanent mold process. The alloy used is also superior/harder than the standard of the industry.
4- All machine work on the castings are done in house in the USA.
5- Flywheels are made in the USA, with the same rods used by Darkhorse Crankworks, Rev Performance, T-man Performance, and others.
6- Bearings, all are made by the same manufacturers as the others use.
7- Pistons are Mahle with Mahle rings. The smaller displacement engines use Ross pistons with Hastings rings. USA again......
8- Valves are Ferrea, beehive springs are from Performance Spring, guides are AV&V(Canada).
9- Cometic supplies ALL the gaskets, and seals.
10- Cam cover(nosecone) factory Harley Davidson.
11- Billit rocker boxes, and oil pump are made in house.

Actually there's more parts manufactured in the good ole USA than most of the other manufacturers including Harley Davidson.
Some facts:
1- I've never seen or heard of a stud pullout of an Ultima case.
2- I've never seen an Ultima head crack.
3- Ultima heads flow very well.
4- Ultima engines make very good streetabl power
5- Engines are priced right.
6- I am in NO way affiliated or paid by Ultima.

Hope this clears up the "stories". :cheers:
John
I'm glad you shared your knowledge and experience. I have mucho respect for you too. What can you share about there transmissions
 
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