tire wear

[Sven]

hard acceleration, no burn out

The most logical to me. If I took my hand, extended my fingers, walked up the side of my face with each finger tip. That is the front wheel being pushed by the back wheel.

If I now take my hand, press it hard against my forehead, began dragging my hand over my nose, my whole face, I being pressing real hard like accelerate away really hard, no spin. I will choose this for most wear to the rear wheel.

hard braking, no lock up

No. Go back to the fingers as the front wheel. Notice how you rolled the wheel 360 degrees, but there is a step. A leading edge. A trailing edge. One is a rise, the other is a low point. Just the wheel turning once over the rise, begins to tear away material is the wear coming around once.

heavy loads/ passenger riding

No.

under/over inflated pressures

No. That will show wear down the middle if over inflated. the edges worn more, the center bows in, not out, so that wears less as the center contacts less push out, this is more under inflated.

poor road conditions

No


When the bike rolls off the dealer floor, I believe, both wheels move at the same time. If one move less than the other, being two different circumference, one spins more than the other per one roll around; we start at the air valve, end at the air valve.

Speaking about the air valve. Does not that [front wheel] spin in a static step? The air nozzle never turns 360, it more bounces like an mmmmmmm. Where, when it comes around, it is more a hoop that never connects. And when it comes around back to the air stem, there is a leading edge up to it, a trailing edge leaving that hoop or stem hop. There are your steps in the front tire. The rear [step] is being sheered off smooth and tears over the leading/trailing with ripping power.

And when I see both wheels wear in two different patterns, one is a worn as the other. Unless you wheel stand and leave that wear from happening. Only a genuine squid changes one tire only.

I know it is my opinion, but to me, it looks so lame, someone asks you if you rubbed both hands together, which palm stays cold? Which has less friction hitting the road? Which one? Like, if I used air pressure as a wear factor, I never roll the tire, is it air pressure that wears the tire down, sitting in a corner? That is a no to me.

If I asked; Who changes one tire only? Most likely, they voted for obama, will vote for obama again. Something like that, when it comes to changing one or both tires. Dis is how it goes down, me looking at joe-A and his tire change.

 

[Tom Chop]

Tirewear - - Do You Have It?

IMHO I would attribute center tire wear on the front tire to be (rolling) mileage and for the most part; braking. Wear on the rear tire in the center is due to hard acceleration. The footprints are really small when you think of it. The braking force of the rear tire is negligable, only approximately 25%. The side wear of our expensive tires is due to road crown and the offsetting of our weight in an effort to compensate for the right hand drive and our beloved 300mm. tires which we all so dearly love. Another minor reason of un-even wear is we drive on the left hand side of the road. On a left hand turn the distance is further to travel. Think about it. Tom Chop

 

[Nukeranger]

The question was simple and the poll was obvious. Too bad Sven can't seem to get it or answer a simple question.

Minimize wear by keeping your inflation right, balancing your wheels, and checking the alignment. All of this in one sentence.

Sven,

Work on your bike (show some pictures), get a job (if you have one - where do you work so I never work there), and where do you live (so I don't have to be near you). You can't be married because you can't answer a simple question (you've been asked where you live - you don't have to give up your location - just the state or country so I can stay away from you.

Nuke

 

[jkd740]

WTF? :loony::loony:

The most logical to me. If I took my hand, extended my fingers, walked up the side of my face with each finger tip. That is the front wheel being pushed by the back wheel.

If I now take my hand, press it hard against my forehead, began dragging my hand over my nose, my whole face, I being pressing real hard like accelerate away really hard, no spin. I will choose this for most wear to the rear wheel.

No. Go back to the fingers as the front wheel. Notice how you rolled the wheel 360 degrees, but there is a step. A leading edge. A trailing edge. One is a rise, the other is a low point. Just the wheel turning once over the rise, begins to tear away material is the wear coming around once.

No.

No. That will show wear down the middle if over inflated. the edges worn more, the center bows in, not out, so that wears less as the center contacts less push out, this is more under inflated.

No


When the bike rolls off the dealer floor, I believe, both wheels move at the same time. If one move less than the other, being two different circumference, one spins more than the other per one roll around; we start at the air valve, end at the air valve.

Speaking about the air valve. Does not that [front wheel] spin in a static step? The air nozzle never turns 360, it more bounces like an mmmmmmm. Where, when it comes around, it is more a hoop that never connects. And when it comes around back to the air stem, there is a leading edge up to it, a trailing edge leaving that hoop or stem hop. There are your steps in the front tire. The rear [step] is being sheered off smooth and tears over the leading/trailing with ripping power.

And when I see both wheels wear in two different patterns, one is a worn as the other. Unless you wheel stand and leave that wear from happening. Only a genuine squid changes one tire only.

I know it is my opinion, but to me, it looks so lame, someone asks you if you rubbed both hands together, which palm stays cold? Which has less friction hitting the road? Which one? Like, if I used air pressure as a wear factor, I never roll the tire, is it air pressure that wears the tire down, sitting in a corner? That is a no to me.

If I asked; Who changes one tire only? Most likely, they voted for obama, will vote for obama again. Something like that, when it comes to changing one or both tires. Dis is how it goes down, me looking at joe-A and his tire change.

 

[king scott]

The most logical to me. If I took my hand, extended my fingers, walked up the side of my face with each finger tip. That is the front wheel being pushed by the back wheel.

If I now take my hand, press it hard against my forehead, began dragging my hand over my nose, my whole face, I being pressing real hard like accelerate away really hard, no spin. I will choose this for most wear to the rear wheel.

No. Go back to the fingers as the front wheel. Notice how you rolled the wheel 360 degrees, but there is a step. A leading edge. A trailing edge. One is a rise, the other is a low point. Just the wheel turning once over the rise, begins to tear away material is the wear coming around once.

No.

No. That will show wear down the middle if over inflated. the edges worn more, the center bows in, not out, so that wears less as the center contacts less push out, this is more under inflated.

No


When the bike rolls off the dealer floor, I believe, both wheels move at the same time. If one move less than the other, being two different circumference, one spins more than the other per one roll around; we start at the air valve, end at the air valve.

Speaking about the air valve. Does not that [front wheel] spin in a static step? The air nozzle never turns 360, it more bounces like an mmmmmmm. Where, when it comes around, it is more a hoop that never connects. And when it comes around back to the air stem, there is a leading edge up to it, a trailing edge leaving that hoop or stem hop. There are your steps in the front tire. The rear [step] is being sheered off smooth and tears over the leading/trailing with ripping power.

And when I see both wheels wear in two different patterns, one is a worn as the other. Unless you wheel stand and leave that wear from happening. Only a genuine squid changes one tire only.

I know it is my opinion, but to me, it looks so lame, someone asks you if you rubbed both hands together, which palm stays cold? Which has less friction hitting the road? Which one? Like, if I used air pressure as a wear factor, I never roll the tire, is it air pressure that wears the tire down, sitting in a corner? That is a no to me.

If I asked; Who changes one tire only? Most likely, they voted for obama, will vote for obama again. Something like that, when it comes to changing one or both tires. Dis is how it goes down, me looking at joe-A and his tire change.

HA HA That wears on me to read

 

[Nukeranger]

I think Sven is Vince81 and he is messing with us!

 

[coachk]

I'm in the market for some new tires for the K-9. What vendors on here are selling tires?

I've read many threads about tires on here and it seems like it's a 50-50 shot when it comes to brands. Any one currently bought tires? Where from and brand?

Thanks

 

[gooby63]

i think with the once a month top off of the nitro, would work the same if we just checked our tires pressure once a month. thats my problem, i dont keep regular check on pressure.. it happend to me last year ran 400 miles 10psi low and no i have a new tire.... it took a couple thousand miles off its life.. just my .02

 

[Abaco21]

I'm in the market for some new tires for the K-9. What vendors on here are selling tires?

I've read many threads about tires on here and it seems like it's a 50-50 shot when it comes to brands. Any one currently bought tires? Where from and brand?

Thanks

Hey CK,

I just put on the Cobras. And Yep, I read all the tire posts until my eyes bled. So here's my input... I bought them from my trusted local shop. Rear was 345 plus tax out the door. Front I did a couple of weeks before and I forget the cost.

He was willing to insure recent build dates. I got Aug 2011.

I obviously can't comment on long term issues yet. But with a thousand hard miles on them, here's what I know. And know for sure, I ride my dog like I ride my sport bike. I'm a road course enthusiast, two wheels or four. I live for any turns I can find in this fricken flat state. If I get caught within one mile of a raindrop I'm pissed. A highway stripe is the most embarrassing thing imaginable to me.

So as for performance handling, I like them a lot. Their contour lets the dog fall into a turn under hard braking real well. And their grip powering off an apex is high, and riding any slip off the turn is easy predicable. The only wear I can notice as of this morning is a little V to the front. The rear is just looking freshly scrubbed.

So that's how I see it for the 250/Chopper combo. Unless I see something from the cracking/separating stories show up on my package, I'd buy another set, no problem. I see their grip/feel/ride quality as right there with the Metzeler me880's I run on my sport bike. And I'm guessing at this early stage that they will last at least as long as any Metzeler compound would.

FYI, I'm still amazed that I can have this much sporting fun on this 07 Chopper! I thought I should have bought a K9 until MinnK9 (Kurt) rode my Chopper and commented on how much more nimble my Chopper was to ride. So it's not quite apples to apples for you. But I'd bet the report on the quality of the tires will relate.


S.

 

[pknowles]

i think with the once a month top off of the nitro, would work the same if we just checked our tires pressure once a month. thats my problem, i dont keep regular check on pressure.. it happend to me last year ran 400 miles 10psi low and no i have a new tire.... it took a couple thousand miles off its life.. just my .02

I've been running about 78% nitro since I started putting air in my tires

 

[Atti2ude]

My Venom is close to the wear bars at 9000 miles but the heavy throttle from a roll contributed to the lower mileage. I spoke to Avon USA about the quality issues reported on this forum and was told the splitting only affected the 300+ tires and apparently were corrected several months ago. Time will tell.

 

[soonertodd]

My Venom is close to the wear bars at 9000 miles but the heavy throttle from a roll contributed to the lower mileage. I spoke to Avon USA about the quality issues reported on this forum and was told the splitting only affected the 300+ tires and apparently were corrected several months ago. Time will tell.

they need to correct the wearing out issues also

 

[francoblay1]

Hi Gents, very interesting reading here indeed

Just a quick question... I just went to check my tires downstairs... I have a Cobra on the front and a Venom at the back.... I was told my K9 had only 800 miles on it when I bought it (2400 now) The question is: Does anyone knows what tires were wearing the K9s from 2006?

Thanks Bros

 

[Mickeetwo]

Hi Gents, very interesting reading here indeed

Just a quick question... I just went to check my tires downstairs... I have a Cobra on the front and a Venom at the back.... I was told my K9 had only 800 miles on it when I bought it (2400 now) The question is: Does anyone knows what tires were wearing the K9s from 2006?

Thanks Bros

Venom....Cobra's came later (2010 or 2011)

 

[francoblay1]

Venom....Cobra's came later (2010 or 2011)

Thanks Alan. The deeper I look into my bike the more I believe It is BS that my Dog had only 800 miles when I bought it last year.

One more question if anyone read this... it is about the speedo;
When I turn the key on it goes through three sequences
1. 0060800
2. Trip meter
3. 2400 (my current mileage)

QUESTION: What the first set of displayed digits are???

Thanks

 

[BadBrad]

I think you left out the most important factor to tire tire wear in your poll, tire composition. As many have already stated and speaking from experience, the new Avons were composed of much softer rubber. I only got about 2500 miles out of my last Avon "Cobra". I contacted Avon and even though I'm sure they're aware of the issue (filed a BBB complaint as well), they would not compensate or pro rate the tire I had purchased. Fuck Avon. I went with Metzler and it seems to be holding up as expected.

 

[aspen874]

Thanks Alan. The deeper I look into my bike the more I believe It is BS that my Dog had only 800 miles when I bought it last year.

One more question if anyone read this... it is about the speedo;
When I turn the key on it goes through three sequences
1. 0060800
2. Trip meter
3. 2400 (my current mileage)

QUESTION: What the first set of displayed digits are???

Thanks

Franco, I would think if your bike had more than 800 miles on it when you purchased it there would be signs, like small pitting on the forward controls and front forks, frame scrapes, things like that.

What condition was the Venom on the back, should have been hardly any wear and the front being a Cobra, could be the previous owner had to change out for some reason

 

[ZeDevil]

Thanks Alan. The deeper I look into my bike the more I believe It is BS that my Dog had only 800 miles when I bought it last year.

One more question if anyone read this... it is about the speedo;
When I turn the key on it goes through three sequences
1. 0060800
2. Trip meter
3. 2400 (my current mileage)

QUESTION: What the first set of displayed digits are???

Thanks

The first set is the speedo pulse count that can be reprogrammed if you ever think that your speedo is not counting miles properly. These pulse counts are different, depending on model/year, rear wheel or pulley.

Here's a post that might help:
http://www.bigdogbiker.com/forums/technical/11100-need-recalibrate-03-speedo.html#post163104

 

[francoblay1]

Thanks guys!

 

[DemonK9]

Im running Metzlers front and back now got about 1500 miles on them, those avon cobras were not bad to me , 7000 miles on them. Im not complaining on that.

Every time i ride i check my pressure with out one skip… watched a biker get killed going 140mph tire blew, under pressurized tire.