tire wear

What contributes most to rear tire wear?

  • hard acceleration, no burn out

    Votes: 29 24.4%
  • hard braking, no lock up

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • heavy loads/ passenger riding

    Votes: 6 5.0%
  • under/over inflated pressures

    Votes: 73 61.3%
  • poor road conditions

    Votes: 10 8.4%

  • Total voters
    119

Kdub

Active Member
I'm lookin at new tires and got wondering what everyone thinks is the biggest contributor to tire wear.
 

woodbutcher

Mr. Old Fart member #145
Staff member
what it all boils down to is the fact that we all bought a "hotrod" bike. the temptation to open it up is hard to overcome just for the simple enjoyment of doing so. therein lies the problem. twisting the throttle= tire wear. if you want to save the rear tire you will have to go with a cookie cutter with less power.
 

mymastiff

Active Member
I my case tire pressure, ran around with a half flat tire like a dumb ass, costly mistake that will not happen again.
 

jkd740

Active Member
I agree for the most part, but doesn't help any when a tire company makes a lesser product and fail to acknowledge it. The new Avon's cobra's are shit compared to the venom's of the past (or did I mix that up). I don't hot rod my bike "much" and put on a lot of highway miles. I shouldn't be seeing wear bars at 3,500 miles. I used to get 10 - 15k out of the old ones.



what it all boils down to is the fact that we all bought a "hotrod" bike. the temptation to open it up is hard to overcome just for the simple enjoyment of doing so. therein lies the problem. twisting the throttle= tire wear. if you want to save the rear tire you will have to go with a cookie cutter with less power.
 

Jersey James

Jersey James
On the flip side of the coin. I have had good results using "nitrogen" in my motorcycle tires. I do not do burn outs, try not to brake hard, but I am guilty of high speed riding. I now have 6,000 miles on a Avon Venom with an easy 3,000 more to go. Twenty bucks for the first tire purge, and a years worth of tire top offs @ once a month.
 

mzinna

Zman
I had the Avon Venom's and got 15,350 out of them... great tires. Now I have the Avon Cobra's and I have no issues with these either. They seem to be wearing as well as the Venom's did. Love the Avon's!:up:
 

BBChopper

Supports 2 Disabled Vets
Troop Supporter
That tires spins more than you think, unless your getting 40MPG!!!!!:2thumbs:
 

toadstool

Active Member
On the flip side of the coin. I have had good results using "nitrogen" in my motorcycle tires. I do not do burn outs, try not to brake hard, but I am guilty of high speed riding. I now have 6,000 miles on a Avon Venom with an easy 3,000 more to go. Twenty bucks for the first tire purge, and a years worth of tire top offs @ once a month.
Attention: I think this is a scam. The regular air they use to fill your tire is already 78% nitrogen. Regardless, a nitrogen atom weighs 14 units whereas an oxygen atom weighs 15.9 units, a miniscule difference. If you look at the advertisement pamphlet for nitrogen filled tires, it shows the nitrogen staying in the tire whereas air leaves the tire faster. In actuality, nitrogen is smaller and moves faster than oxygen and therefore will leave faster. Save your money.
 

soonertodd

BANNED
I agree for the most part, but doesn't help any when a tire company makes a lesser product and fail to acknowledge it. The new Avon's cobra's are shit compared to the venom's of the past (or did I mix that up). I don't hot rod my bike "much" and put on a lot of highway miles. I shouldn't be seeing wear bars at 3,500 miles. I used to get 10 - 15k out of the old ones.
i agree,the cobras suck balls! the first 2 venoms i had went 12k each time.my 1st cobra barely made it 8k and the one i have now is on the wear bars at 5k they are using a shitty compound for these cobras,what sucks is i havent heard much better out of the metzlers or i would try one
 

Abaco21

Active Member
To answer your question/poll, A, C, and D for sure. Hard braking is going to wipe out your front. Rough roads will take out a rim first. And thanks for not even mentioning fucking nails...

So lose weight, tell your whoa-man to learn how to ride her own bike, check pressures regularly, and if you are going to accelerate hard, do equal amounts powering out of left and right handers as straight line so at least the wear is even across the whole tire.

I actually weave side to side on long straight runs because my loathing for highway stripes runs so deep!
 

Abaco21

Active Member
Attention: I think this is a scam. The regular air they use to fill your tire is already 78% nitrogen. Regardless, a nitrogen atom weighs 14 units whereas an oxygen atom weighs 15.9 units, a miniscule difference. If you look at the advertisement pamphlet for nitrogen filled tires, it shows the nitrogen staying in the tire whereas air leaves the tire faster. In actuality, nitrogen is smaller and moves faster than oxygen and therefore will leave faster. Save your money.
Hmmm. Atomic weight aside, the biggest virtue to pure Nitrogen lies in its lack of expansion when heated. Your cold vs. hot running pressure is not going to change like it will with air and the moisture air carries. It's why we run it on the track. An air filled race tire will increase in tire pressure as much as 20-25 percent from ambient once up to temp. Where a Nitrogen filled tire will remain virtually the same. Not a huge deal with a road tire (why I don't bother). Road tires aren't going to take on the same brutal temp change, but a couple pounds pressure still will happen. So not terribly important on a cruiser. But I wouldn't call it a scam.

And since we are talking Avons and sidewall cracking... that lack of moisture thang might make the Nitrogen a very smart move! Hell, I might go get mine filled with the Nitrogen because of this conversation!:)

S.
 

Jersey James

Jersey James
Attention: I think this is a scam. The regular air they use to fill your tire is already 78% nitrogen. Regardless, a nitrogen atom weighs 14 units whereas an oxygen atom weighs 15.9 units, a miniscule difference. If you look at the advertisement pamphlet for nitrogen filled tires, it shows the nitrogen staying in the tire whereas air leaves the tire faster. In actuality, nitrogen is smaller and moves faster than oxygen and therefore will leave faster. Save your money.
Scam or not, to each his own. What I do know is that after 4 plus months, my tires only needed 2 pounds in one tire, & only one pound in the other. NEVER had that with pump air! Twenty Bucks, shit, I've wasted more than that at a bike night. Gives me piece of mind.
 

Brew

Troop Supporter
There's more than one reason and I can only choose one to vote on. I'd say pressure would be a heavy hitter but then you have road condition also...
 

scott70d

Member
I would say all things listed in the poll add to tire wear of different kinds. Hell just parked in the shop on the side stand, nature takes it's toll. Just remember when its gone its gone, replace it with YOUR educated guess . that is why you put this poll up.
 

Nomad2day

Longhair Redneck Geek
Road composition, the amount of crown on the road and down shifting using the motor to brake the bike causes much wear too...
Neil
 

Quasimodo

Active Member
I got about 4,500 miles out of the Avon Venom.
What really killed my back tire was when I was riding on rough surface (old Rt 66) and had extrem side winds for about 5 hours. The constant correcting with your back of the bike just ate up the rubber. Went through both fabrics on the left side of the tire within about 300 miles. The right side still had solid profile into the middle of the tire.
I changed now to Metzeler front and back - I think they last longer.
:cheers:
 

Nukeranger

Nukeranger
I just changed my back tire at 7,082 miles. Seems fair to me.

I wouldn't be concerned about wear on these tires. Try a Track bike racing tire and see how fast it wears being a soft sticky tire. I can push my finger nail into it and have a permanent nail crack. After this, the Avon Venoms are great. Plus remember there is a born on date which will determine an end date depending on your situation. I ran a Daytona 675 from New Orleans to Birmingham once, rode the dragon, and the Barber track a few times. When I got home the steel belt was visible!
 
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nine lives

Active Member
I check my tire pressure all the time as should everyone. Run your bike with low air pressure......your an idiot, that will kill your tire quick for no good reason. So in my case, I'd say torque upon aceleration is the major reason for my rear tire treadwear.
 
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