Taking a serious look at this 05 chopper, what are the issues?

Kikrox

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Hello doggers...need some sound advice ...is a zinc additive healthy for s&s 117cu in Evo motor...pls help...thank you...don't wanna cook my motor
 

Kikrox

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Yes...your right we all cruise different...me..I just cruise...not trying to prove anything...just enjoy...
 

john sachs

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Mine's an s&s engine but how do I know if it's a 4" bore that will work with the tp top end or a 4 1/8" bore that won't?
I have the stock air cleaner that imo doesn't look as good but I can throw it on to see how noticeable the difference in performance is, question is whether I need to do any adjustmentsto the carb when I change the air cleaner back to stock?
If your engine is a 107" it's a 4" bore engine that's a lot different than the 117".
Anytime you change an air cleaner you will find that you may have to change jetting. In your case with that thing that's on there you are going to have to jet richer when you go back to a stock S&S tear drop air cleaner.
John
 

Kikrox

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I'd like to reiterate my comment on cone air cleaner...it's junk...too restrictive...restrictive enough to create a dead cylinder...and there's only 2...removed cone ..installed velocity stack sideways as to not have forced inductiin by installing forward...bike runs beautiful...a small picture adjustment and rolling again...sorry bout the mis info for anyone that might have used it...I got educated on filter importance
 

No H2O

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If it's a 117" get rid of the TP Boxes if they are on it.
TP boxes are on it :(
BDM says I cant just replace the rocker boxes, I have to replace the rocker arms too.
1. Is there anything else?

While the mechanic's in there I'll see about the 585 cam and bigger valves as well but those are optional/price dependent
2. Sound like a good plan of action?
 

dman4

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I'd like to reiterate my comment on cone air cleaner...it's junk...too restrictive...restrictive enough to create a dead cylinder...and there's only 2...removed cone ..installed velocity stack sideways as to not have forced inductiin by installing forward...bike runs beautiful...a small picture adjustment and rolling again...sorry bout the mis info for anyone that might have used it...I got educated on filter importance
I have a cone on mine and it runs great and has as much power as my buddy's with the velocity stack???
 

MossBerg590

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I have a spike air cleaner facing upward also and runs great. Didnt have to do anything to carb except remove the bowl vent plug.
 

No H2O

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The mechanic also said that there is no difference since it uses the same K&N Filter it's just the shape of the cleaner, I like the way it looks especially pointed upward
 

No H2O

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- The S&S 107 in the 04 Ridgeback (although less displacement) seemed to have more instant power, I thought maybe the Chopper is that much heavier but according to NADA there's only a 22 lb diff (653 lbs vs 631 lbs)
I replaced the E-carb with a G-carb. The G-carb came with a matching intake manifold.
Test rode the bike before and after replacing the spike air cleaner with the stock air cleaner.
The G-carb makes a difference but not the air cleaner.
Going to keep the stock air cleaner so I can ride in the rain.

Still doesn't have the instant power that the 04 Ridgeback with the 107ci had.
Will consider upgrading the cam but not if it's only the nominal increase as the G-carb then it's not worth it.
 

mleach72

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I replaced the E-carb with a G-carb. The G-carb came with a matching intake manifold.
Test rode the bike before and after replacing the spike air cleaner with the stock air cleaner.
The G-carb makes a difference but not the air cleaner.
Going to keep the stock air cleaner so I can ride in the rain.

Still doesn't have the instant power that the 04 Ridgeback with the 107ci had.
Will consider upgrading the cam but not if it's only the nominal increase as the G-carb then it's not worth it.
The 585 is a great upgrade. The increase in performance is very noticable. The only bad I can say about it is that you lose a few mpg's, but definitely worth it. I wouldn't hesitate to do it again.
 

No H2O

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The 585 is a great upgrade. The increase in performance is very noticable. The only bad I can say about it is that you lose a few mpg's, but definitely worth it. I wouldn't hesitate to do it again.
Since I'm getting barely over 30mpg it's something I'll likely hold off on
 

No H2O

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Since I'm getting barely over 30mpg it's something I'll likely hold off on
Changed the plugs and been riding it consistently and getting close to 35mpg, much better.
Since, in 14 years it had been ridden only 7k miles (I'll do that in one year), it just needed a good shakeout.
Also, mine are not all highway miles since I spend a couple minutes letting it warm up before riding and also I spend time idling in DC traffic when the cars are tight enough to prevent me from splitting lanes.
 

SEAL-rider

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I replaced the E-carb with a G-carb. The G-carb came with a matching intake manifold.
Test rode the bike before and after replacing the spike air cleaner with the stock air cleaner.
The G-carb makes a difference but not the air cleaner.
Going to keep the stock air cleaner so I can ride in the rain.

Still doesn't have the instant power that the 04 Ridgeback with the 107ci had.
Will consider upgrading the cam but not if it's only the nominal increase as the G-carb then it's not worth it.
Skip the 585 and go 600 cam(Curtis has for $99) if you have the large valves. Some 2005 engines had smaller exhaust valves to meet EPA regs. My first upgrade was a 585 cam and Thunderbolt programable ignition which was good but the move to the 600 cam was dramatic and my mpg actually went up. If you call S&S with your serial # they might be able to tell you which valves you have.
 
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