Start up; no choke, why.?

Butch Cassidy

Active Member
I keep reading it... why do you advocate not using it..? All it does is allow less air into the vortex.. thereby creating a richer mixture.. which is no difference, initially, than a couple sprays from the accelerator pump...
I am familiar with too much fuel getting past the rings and diluting the oil .... but that is all I can understand to be of concern.... ??
 

Nukeranger

Nukeranger
If you twist the throttle one or two times to spray fuel into the carb and the bike starts, why would you want even more fuel from the choke? You should minimize the use of your choke on any bike. On most bikes, it is the only way to get that extra fuel in the engine for a cold start. You slowly back of these type bikes as it warms up and doesn't need to be choked to keep running. Assuming, you have tuned your carb right.

For most of our bikes, it just isn't needed but nice to have just in case. You can always try it and if you don't like it, then stop using it. It's your bike to do with what you like. Experiment around a little with it and decide what your bike likes. Long term, I don't think it is good to have extra fuel on the cylinder walls.
 

FrankBDPS

Well-Known Member
If you twist the throttle one or two times to spray fuel into the carb and the bike starts, why would you want even more fuel from the choke? You should minimize the use of your choke on any bike. On most bikes, it is the only way to get that extra fuel in the engine for a cold start. You slowly back of these type bikes as it warms up and doesn't need to be choked to keep running. Assuming, you have tuned your carb right.

For most of our bikes, it just isn't needed but nice to have just in case. You can always try it and if you don't like it, then stop using it. It's your bike to do with what you like. Experiment around a little with it and decide what your bike likes. Long term, I don't think it is good to have extra fuel on the cylinder walls.
I like the way you are thinking Huw. If you do decide to use it don't forget to shut it back off.
 

heybaylor

Active Member
actually the ss carb does not have a "choke".
It is a "enrichener" , it open a fuel passage behind the throttle valve.
allows the bike to start with zero throttle opening, kinda like fuel injection.
So blip the throttle and squirt fuel , and blip it to keep it running while cold , or use the enrichener ?
I like the steady start rpm better than me blipping ...your choice
 

Rottweiler

Well-Known Member
Supporting Member
actually the ss carb does not have a "choke".
It is a "enrichener" , it open a fuel passage behind the throttle valve.
allows the bike to start with zero throttle opening, kinda like fuel injection.
So blip the throttle and squirt fuel , and blip it to keep it running while cold , or use the enrichener ?
I like the steady start rpm better than me blipping ...your choice
How True
 

Dragonslave

Active Member
actually the ss carb does not have a "choke".
It is a "enrichener" , it open a fuel passage behind the throttle valve.
allows the bike to start with zero throttle opening, kinda like fuel injection.
So blip the throttle and squirt fuel , and blip it to keep it running while cold , or use the enrichener ?
I like the steady start rpm better than me blipping ...your choice
This is the reason why I use it. Plus it helps me save my battery by not having to put so much juice into my starter.
 

Matheny 514

Active Member
actually the ss carb does not have a "choke".
It is a "enrichener" , it open a fuel passage behind the throttle valve.
allows the bike to start with zero throttle opening, kinda like fuel injection.
So blip the throttle and squirt fuel , and blip it to keep it running while cold , or use the enrichener ?
I like the steady start rpm better than me blipping ...your choice
Also, if your going to use the enrichener, do not pull up on the handle until the engine is spinning over, and do not leave it up part way to make the bike idle faster. Your just soaking the spark plugs with excess fuel.
:agree: :old2:
 

bigkelk9

Well-Known Member
I was just informed a few months ago that it's not a choke as well and what it really does. Tried starting my bike how the owners manual days and never went back. Two twists of the throttle and bike fires right up no matter how cold. I have however noticed that my bike runs a bit smoother after starting and the acceleration of my stator is a lot more responsive by not using the enriched. Good luck with whatever u choose.. but ur in Dallas, Eric will tell ya you don't need to use it. I watched him start his bike numerous times without touching it.
 

Bmarchant

Active Member
its not a choke. Its an enricher. I have a really nice FXLR because the guy kept using the enricher like a choke. No matter how many times I told him not to use it.

This is from the S&S installation manual:

Starting Procedure - S&S Super E & G carburetors do not have a conventional choke. Instead, a mixture enrichement/fast idle device is used for starting and engine warm-ups. The enrichment device utilizes separate air and fuel pickup passageways and is engaged by pulling the fast idle lever.

 

francoblay1

The Spaniard
I akways use the enrichner... 30 seconds on it suffice for me, then I just let it iddle for another 60 seconds or so with the Cruise-Mate engaged. After that off I go without letting it go over 3500 rpm for about 5 clicks... then... follow me, if you can!!! :oldsmile:

cruise-mate.jpg

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