Springer or not....?

[brady3sf]

i'm in the same boat. I can not make up my mind on what style of springer or from what company.

 

[vision]

There is a reason why I say that. The "it should just bolt on" statement from a part manufacture is just amusing to me now.

Aint that the truth. Gotta love the looks of that American Susp front end though. So what if it is a hazard, you want saftey stay off a motorcycle.

 

[dingo]

Gotta love the looks of that American Susp front end though. So what if it is a hazard, you want saftey stay off a motorcycle.

I think the American Suspension looks the best, too.....but I can't see knowingly increasing equipment safety risk by that much just for looks.

 

[onaprwl]

Check out my post about ..Finally Decided, I will keep you updated when I have the final price and pictures when finished.

 

[Moespeeds]

"I think the American Suspension looks the best, too.....but I can't see knowingly increasing equipment safety risk by that much just for looks."

What exactly happened to Al's front end? If just the bolt failed, that could happen to anyone and doesn't indicate a design flaw. I looked at the front brake mount on my Dragon Springer tonight, and it looks like pretty much any other springer mount out there, an adjustable brace with HEIM bearings holding the caliper in place. Am I missing something or did Al's have a different design? I do know that American treated Al like a dick and I do not agree with that, but unfortunately this hobby is full of artists with little or no people skills or business sense.

 

[alhall88]

"I think the American Suspension looks the best, too.....but I can't see knowingly increasing equipment safety risk by that much just for looks."

What exactly happened to Al's front end? If just the bolt failed, that could happen to anyone and doesn't indicate a design flaw. I looked at the front brake mount on my Dragon Springer tonight, and it looks like pretty much any other springer mount out there, an adjustable brace with HEIM bearings holding the caliper in place. Am I missing something or did Al's have a different design? I do know that American treated Al like a dick and I do not agree with that, but unfortunately this hobby is full of artists with little or no people skills or business sense.

Moe, sent you a pm but I will explain again. The stay bracket you have will be fine. The one they were experimenting with at the time I bought mine was a poor design and was aimed strictly as a cosmetic change. The design I had was a solid bar with 2 thin bronze sleeves pressed in the ends where the bolt goes. The sleeves as I said were bronze and the bolts were chrome button heads. As the front end exercises up and down the brass sleeves started wearing out and eventually walked on top the bolt and snapped the head off.Now when it came to replacing it I told the insurance company that I felt the whole front end was compromised and wanted a total replacement and they agreed. So when I called american suspension(now called american builder) and got the shaft I decided that I would no longer deal with this company plain and simple. Here's a pic of the bad design stay bracket.

 

[Moespeeds]

I gotcha Al, yes mine is definately different. I had a similar issue with my Ultima Inverted front end, and that's a big part of why I decided to replace the whole front end to begin with.

 

[outdoorsman26]

your choice!!!

does it really matter what we think??? If you like it fuckin run it!!!! If you think its sick buy it and be different!!! but if you you are not sure go with the triple trees thats just my thoughts!!!!:2thumbs:

 

[MonsterX]

do springers need shock absorbers? Some have them some do not. Does that change the ride?

 

[Dogdaz]

Girder

Rides better also.

 

[Raywood]

do springers need shock absorbers? Some have them some do not. Does that change the ride?

My old Pauchco springer didn't have the shock absorbers and it road like a truck. Not good for the long run but fine around town.

 

[BikersDream]

Big Dog trees are cool!

 

[gearsmithy]

I'm surprised we didn't have Spartan on here. They are by my standards top of the market in frames and front ends.

 

[Raywood]

I'm surprised we didn't have Spartan on here. They are by my standards top of the market in frames and front ends.

Hum, never heard of Spartan. Will have to look them up.

 

[Moespeeds]

I've got 6k on my Dragon Springer and all is well. It rides better than my old Ultima Inverted, and I don't think it's as soft as the stock BD front end. I have no complaints though, and I've done a few long trips and lots of barhopping.

 

[Raywood]

I've got 6k on my Dragon Springer and all is well. It rides better than my old Ultima Inverted, and I don't think it's as soft as the stock BD front end. I have no complaints though, and I've done a few long trips and lots of barhopping.

Moe, the Dragon has internal shocks units inside the springs though doesn't it?

 

[Reaper]

I think I am going to put the Dragon setup on my Reaper bike this winter.

 

[Moespeeds]

The Dragon has external springs and internal oil rebound dampeners. I like the ride, but it does rattle alot over heavy bumps. When I take it apart this winter I'm going to make some big fiber washers and put them under the springs, hopefully it will cure the problem.

 

[Reaper]

My dealer has a Dragon setup on a K-9, and I test rode it recently, thought it rode great, put it thru the paces, rough roads, railroad X's, tight turns. I was impressed, plus it looks amazing.

 

[gearsmithy]

Hum, never heard of Spartan. Will have to look them up.

Here you go

Spartan Frameworks