Speedo and engine question

bikeone

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cylinder heads of the niners look different.
horsepower date and cui in the advertisement are not the same.yellow is a 2005 and the red one is 2010 model.
yellow: 63HP - red: 158HP
yellow 117 cui - red: 121 cui
yellow 2005 - red: 2010

so my thought was another engine is built in.
 
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Mickmorris

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Hi together,
found two niners in my price category but have questions to the bikes.
Is the speedo original for a 2010 model?
engines are the 117 cui with efi and the other one is a 124 cui S&S?
hang on pics.
Looks like the real deal. 124ci carb or EFI? I don’t think they made the K9 until 2006.
 

Jersey Big Mike

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2006 was first yr for K-9, K-9 was not EFI till 08 and that yellow bike is EFI so it has to be an 08 or later.

The 124 didn't come in a BDM till 2016 when they came back so that's not likely the original engine.

Also HP of 63 seems REALLY low for a 117
HP of 158 for the 124 is good except that the DSSC primary/transmission on a BDM is only rated to about 120HP after that you really run the risk of issues with the transmission if you ride hard.
 

Jersey Big Mike

100K mile club
2006 was first yr for K-9, K-9 was not EFI till 08 and that yellow bike is EFI so it has to be an 08 or later.

The 124 didn't come in a BDM till 2016 when they came back so that's not likely the original engine.

Also HP of 63 seems REALLY low for a 117
HP of 158 for the 124 is good except that the DSSC primary/transmission on a BDM is only rated to about 120HP after that you really run the risk of issues with the transmission if you ride hard.
I'd get the VIN's and run acheck on the bikes that way -- Either he doesn't know what he's got or it's worse than that.
 

bikeone

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2006 was first yr for K-9, K-9 was not EFI till 08 and that yellow bike is EFI so it has to be an 08 or later.

The 124 didn't come in a BDM till 2016 when they came back so that's not likely the original engine.

Also HP of 63 seems REALLY low for a 117
HP of 158 for the 124 is good except that the DSSC primary/transmission on a BDM is only rated to about 120HP after that you really run the risk of issues with the transmission if you ride hard.
Its a 117 ci engine.
HP is 120. more simple legalize with lower HP in case of emissions report and legalizeover there owner told.
 

Snuffy

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The reason I was thinking of shying away is you said these were bikes you could afford. They both probably need a lot of work. I bought one recently that I could afford and spent more than I paid getting it right. Yes I have a good bike now but spent much more than I planned on. If you are on a tight budget you need to consider this. Best luck finding your bike. This wasn’t meant to discourage only help you consider the after you buy it.
 

Jersey Big Mike

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cylinder heads of the niners look different.
horsepower date and cui in the advertisement are not the same.yellow is a 2005 and the red one is 2010 model.
yellow: 63HP - red: 158HP
yellow 117 cui - red: 121 cui
yellow 2005 - red: 2010

so my thought was another engine is built in.
As I said, run the VIN
The yellow bike isn't an 05 K-9 as the K-9 wasn't made til 06 and not efi til 08
Makes me wonder what else is "incorrect/misleading etc"
 

bikeone

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bike owner is located in slovakia - myself don t speak this language.
He dont speak German - so we try to speak english together.
our english is not the best - so our talk together is a lil complicated.
speedo has not malfunction - you can switch between analog and digital - rpm and mph.
bike is 2010 efi with less than 2000 miles.
engine is 117ci with correct 120 hp. 71 HP stand in the documents.
Title is not in his hands - Only slovakian dokuments - without COC Conformity document
legalize the bike in Germany is complicated.
distance is 1100 kM, roundabout 680 miles. (Germany- Austria - Slovakia)
Have the option motorcycle Hanger but think its better to lean a Transporter.
In case of weather and bike size a Transporter is in my thought the better choice.
 

Jersey Big Mike

100K mile club
bike owner is located in slovakia - myself don t speak this language.
He dont speak German - so we try to speak english together.
our english is not the best - so our talk together is a lil complicated.
speedo has not malfunction - you can switch between analog and digital - rpm and mph.
bike is 2010 efi with less than 2000 miles.
engine is 117ci with correct 120 hp. 71 HP stand in the documents.
Title is not in his hands - Only slovakian dokuments - without COC Conformity document
legalize the bike in Germany is complicated.
distance is 1100 kM, roundabout 680 miles. (Germany- Austria - Slovakia)
Have the option motorcycle Hanger but think its better to lean a Transporter.
In case of weather and bike size a Transporter is in my thought the better choice.
Have you tried using google translate -- Have him email you then run test thru google translate option -- Has done a very good job when I have needed it to.
 

Mickmorris

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bike owner is located in slovakia - myself don t speak this language.
He dont speak German - so we try to speak english together.
our english is not the best - so our talk together is a lil complicated.
speedo has not malfunction - you can switch between analog and digital - rpm and mph.
bike is 2010 efi with less than 2000 miles.
engine is 117ci with correct 120 hp. 71 HP stand in the documents.
Title is not in his hands - Only slovakian dokuments - without COC Conformity document
legalize the bike in Germany is complicated.
distance is 1100 kM, roundabout 680 miles. (Germany- Austria - Slovakia)
Have the option motorcycle Hanger but think its better to lean a Transporter.
In case of weather and bike size a Transporter is in my thought the better choice.
Sounds like a tough sale for sure. Especially the part about “title is not in his hands”. And the documents to register it in Germany? Please just make sure it’s a legitimate seller. So many crooks out there in the world! Best of Luck!!
 

bikeone

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Wait for answer slovakian documents include certificate of conformity.
without the european CoC lDocument legalize in Germany is complicatet and expensive.
No way with V&H Big Radius. Had them on my Pit Bull and must change to less sound to get legal.
custom dutys on new vehicles are 10 %. Used normally are free between EU country s.
Like Snuffy said - spend not too much money - a good and legal exhaust is expensive.
Would like the Jekyll & Hyde exhaust - roundabout 4 K bucks.
one year warranty you have only from a official Dealer. This point counts too.
first everything looks fine - heart say buy -
Have to think about this things and decise.
 
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