should I be concerned?

Alright, this sat if the bike in Dallas I'm going to look at runs good and rides true I'm going to pull the trigger on it. I wasn't worried about anything until I came across some threads this morning stating the 05 models have issues because BDM had switched some things up and ect ect. I'm looking at a 05 Ridgeback with a 117 with not quite 5k miles on it. Dealer states it starts and runs great, a really awesome guy on here went by and gave it a one over and gave his approval.

Main concern, since the 05s had "growing pains" is this something I should reconsider and to the owners of 05 models how has yours stacked up? I'm not afraid of wrenching and I know enough to get by. But def don't want to purchase a "work on it all week so you can ride it on the weekend bike". Like the old school Harley's. I ride daily with my bike as my primary transportation and my bmw as my ah shit the bike broke again car. Any opinions and personal experiences with 05 models would be greatly appreciated! :cheers:
 
Some have had their problems while others have had no problems.
I think a huge portion of the issues have been self generated, i.e. me and my 06 K9.
Im not sure I would buy one as a primary mode of transportation.
One thing is definite
If you buy it and start "tinkering" with it then you will likely end up with a "Tinker Toy" that you will be constantly tinkering with.
Being able to do basic troubleshooting and wrenching really is a must though.
Unless you want to spend a lot of money letting someone else F up your ride.
 

Raywood

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My 05 is going on 93,000 miles. Damn thing :)

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Wills67

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Once you get through the basic PM's it's like any other hot rod bike. The harder you pound on it, the more you can bank on wrenching. Ride it like a daily and get after it within reason and you'll be OK. I have put on 7,000 in the last 2 years (since I bought it). Only real major issue was replacing the EHC with the WP. Yours would be easier if you have to change it with the PDM.
 
My 05 is going on 93,000 miles. Damn thing :)

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Haha sounds like you and I do about the same amount of saddle time on two wheels. I was really busy with a lot of stuff this year and didn't get to ride near as much as I am used to and only covered about 11k miles this year so far
 
Once you get through the basic PM's it's like any other hot rod bike. The harder you pound on it, the more you can bank on wrenching. Ride it like a daily and get after it within reason and you'll be OK. I have put on 7,000 in the last 2 years (since I bought it). Only real major issue was replacing the EHC with the WP. Yours would be easier if you have to change it with the PDM.
I don't think changing the pdm would be difficult but the price tag on that thing is ugly!
 

RRRUFF

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No major problems with my 05. Everthing I have done has been pre-emptive with the exception of a failed key switch. As said above some have had problems and some have not. I did change my TP rocker boxes and rockers out to S&S and I changed out my EHC to a WirePlus system. Other than that just routine stuff.
 

Brew

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So far so good with my 05 ridge. I know some have had issues with the transmission main shafts and also the wheel (pitch forks) had a recall. I'll be pulling mine apart for a trans rebuild due to the main bearing being worn and the seal leaking. Will have the main shaft looked at to see if it's one that is weak. Other than that, it's golden! You'll love it!
 

wolfen

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Wait and get an 07 or newer

I bought an 05 Chopper about 6 months ago. It had 4000 miles on it. It ran great and I thought I got a great deal. Well at 8000 miles the engine went on me. It has to be totally rebuilt. The engine had a lot of oil blowing by the valve guides which led to the valve seizing in the guide for a fraction of a second ,but,long enough for the push rod to ride up on the rocker and push the piston into the top of the piston. I was doning 80 miles an hour when it happined. So needless to say it took the whole cylinder out. Bent the piston rod. Put metal all through the motor. So it costing me 4500.00 to have it done . It will be the way it was suppose to be.
The motor guy told me that those years Big Dog 05-06 Didn`t use only S&S parts to build there motors. They put a very small cam in them and ran them way to lean. The motor would run hot.
So, If you are going to by an 05-06 117" make sure you have it gone over by a mechanic who knows what he`s looking at.
I would have saved myself alot of headach if I had my guy look at it when I bought it. Just my experiance.
Still Love my chopper and can`t wait to get the motor back in the bike. Should run great now.
 
I bought an 05 Chopper about 6 months ago. It had 4000 miles on it. It ran great and I thought I got a great deal. Well at 8000 miles the engine went on me. It has to be totally rebuilt. The engine had a lot of oil blowing by the valve guides which led to the valve seizing in the guide for a fraction of a second ,but,long enough for the push rod to ride up on the rocker and push the piston into the top of the piston. I was doning 80 miles an hour when it happined. So needless to say it took the whole cylinder out. Bent the piston rod. Put metal all through the motor. So it costing me 4500.00 to have it done . It will be the way it was suppose to be.
The motor guy told me that those years Big Dog 05-06 Didn`t use only S&S parts to build there motors. They put a very small cam in them and ran them way to lean. The motor would run hot.
So, If you are going to by an 05-06 117" make sure you have it gone over by a mechanic who knows what he`s looking at.
I would have saved myself alot of headach if I had my guy look at it when I bought it. Just my experiance.
Still Love my chopper and can`t wait to get the motor back in the bike. Should run great now.
Grrr... don't like hearing stories like this...
 

MARV

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They came with a weak clutch carrier. Most broke. Recalled with a beefier upgrade.
Primary cover has access only to chain tensioner.
Swing arm bolts were recalled. Mine drilled out like aluminum.
It's got restrictors at the intake manifold of the super E to detune.
Tp rocker boxes are a known alignment problem.
Non roller rockers
Crank sensor. Cam cover has no nose cone access to change ignition.
Speedo is known to have problems
Right hand control board was upgraded because of issues
Ehc?????


I still have my 05 and when running its one of the baddest bikes around but I'd recommend an 04 down or a 07 up.
 

bigdogtech01

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The engine had a lot of oil blowing by the valve guides which led to the valve seizing in the guide for a fraction of a second ,but,long enough for the push rod to ride up on the rocker and push the piston into the top of the piston.
The motor guy told me that those years Big Dog 05-06 Didn`t use only S&S parts to build there motors. They put a very small cam in them and ran them way to lean. The motor would run hot.
Alright, this sat if the bike in Dallas I'm going to look at runs good and rides true I'm going to pull the trigger on it. I wasn't worried about anything until I came across some threads this morning stating the 05 models have issues because BDM had switched some things up and ect ect. I'm looking at a 05 Ridgeback with a 117 with not quite 5k miles on it. Dealer states it starts and runs great, a really awesome guy on here went by and gave it a one over and gave his approval.

Main concern, since the 05s had "growing pains" is this something I should reconsider and to the owners of 05 models how has yours stacked up? I'm not afraid of wrenching and I know enough to get by. But def don't want to purchase a "work on it all week so you can ride it on the weekend bike". Like the old school Harley's. I ride daily with my bike as my primary transportation and my bmw as my ah shit the bike broke again car. Any opinions and personal experiences with 05 models would be greatly appreciated! :cheers:
Pre '05 is a more reliable machine. But, they all have a few problems here and there. Like Ray said, he has over 90,000 miles on his and still going. A lot of it is how you ride. I would make the dealer give you a list of all the items that have been replaced. The biggest concern would be the Main shaft in the transmission. If it has not been replaced, it can be a safety concern. The other would be some electrical components. But with that being said, I would not jump to replacing the EHC or anything else until needed. A lot of guys on here are convincing others to replace the EHC the first time they have a head light blow. 90% of the time, it's most likely something else causing the problems, such as an ignition switch, or the ignition system itself. Keep in mind, all the parts on this bike can be replaced with an upgraded part. Replacing the EHC with wire plus is NOT an upgrade.
As far as the TP rocker boxes go, it's still not determined that in fact it was and is the problem. I have had just as many 100% S&S built motors apart with the same problems as I have had of the mixed S&S/TP motors. The valve guide failure is NOT caused from having too much oil to top end or from running too lean. If anything, it would be caused from not enough oil to top end. PEOPLE, MAKE SURE YOUR CLEANING YOUR TAPPET SCREENS DURING SERVICE INTERVALS!!! The most common cause of pre mature valve guide failure is, not sizing the valve guide up from day one. The valve guide to valve stem clearance was most likely out of spec after they reamed it to size. No one will ever admit to that, but it does happen.
Good luck with your purchase. I say go for it if you get a good deal on it. Less that $10k, go for it. :cheers:
 

BBChopper

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I bought my 05 Chopper in 06 used with 3k on it. I had no real issues till my input shaft bearing started going two weeks before Bike Week 08. I pulled the trans and had my local shop fix it. When I pulled it I found that the Carrier had been changed already, by the looks of the inner primary it looks like is blew apart. I changed over to the S&S Rocker Boxes mostly because of the shitty Chrome on the TP’s, I changed the Top’s twice. Other than that normal battery starter ETC. I did have all the recalls and service updates done while it was still under warranty. These things are Hot Rods and should be treated as such. I do all my own wrenching not only to save money but I don’t trust anyone to work on it. When I took it to South Florida Choppers for the last warranty work they totally screwed the bike up and it took weeks to fix it. I do use my local shop for stuff like mounting tires ETC. he used to own a Big Dog and a HD Dealership up North and I trust him. My biggest concern would be the Carrier because it can blow apart but there are several available I have seen several sold here on the site.
Good luck I love my bike and hope to never sell it!:2thumbs:

Inner Primary:
 

BadBrad

2005 Pitbull
I know bigdogtech01 knows his shit, but also notice he's not riding an '05. I got mine with 4900 miles on it 3 years ago. First major FU was it broke a valve and dropped it into the cylinder destroying that whole front head/cylinder/piston. Then, it wasn't long before the new heads had worn valve guides allowing oil into the cylinder. TP rocker boxes/roller rockers are not an exact match for an S&S motor. The bolt holes may match but the roller rockers don't push straight down on the valve, causing pre-mature wear or even worse, breaking a valve. Next thing to go was the clutch basket. Upgraded to the beefier clutch basket. I changed out the EHC while it was still working. Bigdogtech says that's not an upgrade but I would have to disagree. The damn EHC's are so finicky and they tend to snowball when they have an issue, leaving you stranded. Next, the mainshaft broke while riding down the highway. Upgraded to the mainshaft big dog should have used to begin with instead of trying to save a few bucks. Raywood is the exception to the rule but I'm pretty sure he has upgraded a few of the items I've listed so far. He can attest to that himself. He pulled the heads due to a gas tank problem but also found that his valve guides were worn. I think he went back with S&S rocker boxes/roller rockers as many of us have done. I've had a few other issues not typical of the '05 so I'll not mention them. The list is long enough without it. Rocky, my wife, has an '03 that is rock solid and there's not a whole lot of difference between her 107 and my 117 other than the fact that hers is running all the time while mine often sits on the jackstand.
 

Bobby Schulz

Active Member
I work on a ton of BigDogs and the 05 has a few extra problems mainly with the DSSC transmissions. The shafts are not made well on them by not having the proper radius cut and heat treating. They also have the very weak clutch basket that is prone to breaking.
That said I have a 05 ridgeback and do like the bike quite a bit. I rebuilt the trans,installed a wires plus, new clutch carrier and she is golden.
 
Geez idk what to think now ha. Makes me a bit paranoid about getting it. I can live with little issues I'll tinker with in the garage but thinking my bike may shit out on me going down the interstate cause it had cheap parts put in it is unnerving. What's yalls opinions on the 03 choppers with the 107? There's one for a little over 10k down the road I just found
 
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