plug or patch (mushroom type) rear tire?

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REMorris

OK Rider Shakey
I currently have a dilemma. Jump to the bold section for my question if you don't want to see the entire story.

One month ago, I took my bike into the dealer to get a slow leak fixed in the rear tire. They charged me to dismount the tire and remount it. They said they found nothing, the suggested it was a problem with the wheel/tire sealing and put sealant on the beads.

slow leak still there, but needed to do a mandatory club ride (Tulsa to Ft Worth). On morning of leaving, i aired it to 42 psi and went.

Next morning in Ft Worth (about 300 miles) it had maybe 10 psi left. Since this was now Sunday, I was stuck... I put a can of flat fix in it and made it home.

This Wednesday, I took my bike in to get the slow leak fixed again (the flat fix had shown where it was punctured). I told them I wanted it patched as I already have had a plug get thrown out on the highway last year. I also said if it was not fixable, put a new tire on it. Plus I stated that I was not paying the labor again to fix the flat since they were at fault for not finding it (about $120). I went away thinking the dealer would do things right, I am a perfect customer.

Well, I picked the bike up thursday and happened to look at the spot that was supposed to have been patched. They did the cheap way and rammed a plug into it. The same type plug I had thrown out last year.

Also, i checked tire pressure at home on the just worked on tire and it was at 110 psi. I again called the dealer and asked why my rear tire had 110 psi. He said they couldn't get a good seal on it. I replied : "so you let a customer take out a dangerously overinflated tire with no warning?" He basically said yes.

At this point I ordered a brand new Avon av72 300/35vr18 from Dennis Kirk (total w/ship was $262.00). I will put the new tire on and patch the old one with a "mushroom" type plug and it will be my spare.

Here is my question: has anyone had good luck with plugs staying in? This same dealer sold me a new tire last year after I had plugged a <different> rear tire. They told me then that plugs were unsafe and I needed a new tire (total was around $500 for the new tire with installation).

if you are interested, pm me and i will give the dealership name.

Richard Morris
918-277-9750 if you want to talk.

ps: I called Big Dog headquarters and was told that this issue is between me and my dealer, but he thought it was not right.

I love my 09 Mastiff and had plans to buy a new one again next year, maybe a wolf. but the shitty treatment today probably shoots down my getting another BigDog (from them at least)
 

Ratman

Active Member
I purchased my bike new...and at 500 miles had a small screw dead center of the rear tire. After reading lots of opinions here...I thought I would just try a plug. I did it myself...with the advice of Gasman on how to do. (Thank you). I now have about 4500 miles on the bike and have not had any problem yet. If it failed I would not try a "redo". Also...I ride at slow speeds through the country and check air pressure quite often. If I rode on the interstate I am not sure if I would have tried the plug. HOWEVER...I think I would be afraid to ride on a tire that had been overinflated as you mentioned. I don't know if you possibly broke belts loose inside-I am not a tire guy. Replacing is always safer-but you can put a brand new one on and run over something the first time you ride...be loosing pressure... and not even know it. TPMS appears (to me) to be more important on a bike than an auto-but my bike does not have one. We should all check our air pressure often.
 
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erldawg

Guru
Do you have a sign on your rear tire for nails and screws please enter? :eek:

I'd be changing up the roads I travel on.

Sorry no way I would ride with a plug in my tire and overinflated! :eek:
 

Splitlog

Well-Known Member
I had to plug mine in Sturgis a couple of years ago. put about 2000 miles on it afterwards through the rest of the season with no problems..The hole was dead center.
I work at a auto shop....The fix a flat stuff did get you home but plays havic on trying to get a patch to stick properly..you have to clean all that stuff out and then make sure it is completly "clean/dry" or it will leak again.....plugging is the way to go..any problems you can plug it again....
 

Raywood

The Pirate
Staff member
Calendar Participant
Troop Supporter
Hey Richard, has the tire valve been replaced on your wheel. Could be the cause of your slow leak.

:cheers:
 
I tried to use a plug a couple yrs ago didn't work for me, Ibought the tire & wheel ins. when I bought my bike new so I go straight to the shop, I'm on my 3rd rear tire so the ins I paid $400 has really paid for its self, only down side is the ins only covers 1 hr of shop labor and as we all know it takes longer than an hr to do a rear tire
:cheers:
 

ChopperJeff

Active Member
I once plugged a rear tire on my '05 Chopper and rode it for another 8,000 miles with no problems. Another issue was that the plug was developing a very slow leak after about 8,000 miles, but by then I needed a new tire.

Now, about your story... first of all, it amazes me that the dealer didn't find the original leak. Secondly, it's hard to believe that a dealer would even be willing to patch, let alone plug the tire. When my rear tire had a screw go thru the middle of it, NOBODY would patch or plug it due to liability issues! Apparently your dealer doesn't care for your safety, as he not only plugged your tire and sent you on your way, but he also grossly overinflated your tire, and even after being informed of this, just wrote you off.

I'd file a complaint about that dealer, AND would NEVER go back to him again!
 

REMorris

OK Rider Shakey
Hey Richard, has the tire valve been replaced on your wheel. Could be the cause of your slow leak.

:cheers:
The valve stem was the 1st thing I checked, but it was fine. The slow leak was caused by 1 leg of a staple (like you staple paper together with). Hard to imagine that a staple would cause a flat, but as soon as I pulled it out (using fingertips only), the leak was obvious.
 
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adamthisis

Guest
You might want to check out your local harley shops, I know so of them can handle a 300. At least in my area:up: also I would be talking to lawyer about that dealership that you went to and get a get a lawsuit pending. Can't believe that they let you go down the road with that back tire at 110psi.:eek::loony: I drive a semi-truck for a living and our tires are only at 100psi
 

TEXASDOG

TexasDog
I had a screw go into my back tire when I was 200 miles from home. I plugged it and had to blow it up with the fix a flat stuff. Seemed to work fine until I got it up to about 70 and the plug blew out. I damned near went into head on traffic before I could get it stopped. Just my 2 cents.
 

airbrush-ed

kustompaintbyed.com
I would tie that dealer to a chair and play a little russian roulet with him. See if he likes YOU playing with his life. Just my 2 cents...
Oh, happy b-day!
 

Vegas

Well-Known Member
I had a screw go into my back tire when I was 200 miles from home. I plugged it and had to blow it up with the fix a flat stuff. Seemed to work fine until I got it up to about 70 and the plug blew out. I damned near went into head on traffic before I could get it stopped. Just my 2 cents.

This right here is exactly why you don't plug a motorcycle tire except in an emergency. If your life isn't worth $300 on a tire, do your wife a favor and spend it on life insurance.
 

surferdude

dry docked
$320 + not worth the gamble on your life or someone elses. Bit the bullet at 4k miles ... plug wouldn't hold ... got the new 300m ... piece of mind. :eek: :up: :)
 

jimizee028

TRUE COLORS COLLISION
my life is definately not worth gambling over....especially when it only comes down to a $300 tire..........
 

KnotSo

Admin
Staff member
Plugged my rear tire myself about 6500 miles ago. Aired it up to 42 lbs, and so far holding up. But I also rarely ride above 120 anymore, so all should be ok.:cheers:
 
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