PCB Circuit Board Help

[Th3InfamousI]

Well. To make it short I installed my CruiseMate this AM, figured it was a good idea prior to heading to BBBQ. Reassembled and right hand PCB not working. :bang:

I can occasssionally get the right turn signal to work but it's hit or miss. Can't get the fucker to start at all. Brake light works all the time though. I did blow the crap out of it to get all the shavings out prior and still no luck.

I happen to have a Left Hand Control Board that I purchased some time ago as I figured I might need it and it was cheap $20. Well I plugged that in just to confirm everythign is working order, viola everything works! Now only problem I'm missing the extra brake switch.

I'm looking for someone who knows what the board is doing with the brake switch? Is it turning it into a signal? Is there any way to circumvent the switch? IE run the front brake line directly into the Orange Brake Wire?

I'm not sure if I have any options here or need to get a new Right Hand switch, either way not sure how I'm going to make it to BBBQ. I can put it back together to get her going but no front brake light.

 

[Th3InfamousI]

So I have removed the PCB and Cleaned the board hopefully it was just my greasy paws that fucked it up. I cleaned it with rubbing alcohol and water. It is currently out drying in the sun.


I thoroughly looked at the board prior to cleaning and now I have an idea I would like to run by some of you electronic experts first. Where is DB when you need him?

So looking at the left hand board it has everything less the input for front brake controller. Reviewing the wire diagram and the PCB board. I feel reasonably confident that you could solder the two leads coming from the front brake controler to the ends of the PCB board showing Orange and black (Ground) and end up with the same result. The left hand board has the same connector just nothing running to it on the left. See my MS Paint Image Below

Is it as simple as that? Not sure why nobody has thought of that since Left Hand boards are found for $20-$30 and Right hand are running $200. If I didn't need to hit up BBBQ I would try this without and even asking. However this left hand board can get me up and running I will just have to make sure i tap my rear when I am braking so people behind me are aware.

 

[Th3InfamousI]

Here is where I am thinking of running the solder, right on the leads off the board into the connector. Thoughts?

Please everyone, no need to tell me how awesome my Microsoft Paint Skills are

 

[mml03102]

Hi , i REALIZE YOU HAVE YOUR OWN TOUBLES AT THE MOMENT BUT IF YOU PUT THE LEFT HAND CONTROL ON THE RIGHT SIDE. WOULD THE LEFT SIDE RUBBER BOOT FIT ON THAT SIDE AS WELL? I NEED THE BOOT BUT CANT FUIND ONE FOR THE RIGHT SIDE?

GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR PCB :flag:

 

[Th3InfamousI]

Hi , i REALIZE YOU HAVE YOUR OWN TOUBLES AT THE MOMENT BUT IF YOU PUT THE LEFT HAND CONTROL ON THE RIGHT SIDE. WOULD THE LEFT SIDE RUBBER BOOT FIT ON THAT SIDE AS WELL? I NEED THE BOOT BUT CANT FUIND ONE FOR THE RIGHT SIDE?

GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR PCB :flag:

Nope just tried it. Also in 04 your rubber boot has Run/Stop Start written on it. 05 and up the rubber boot is rubber and then they have the buttons with the names over them. Sorry dude.

 

[mml03102]

OKAY THANKS FOR CHECKING IT OUT FOR ME THO!

 

[DRBarnhart]

So looking at the left hand board it has everything less the input for front brake controller. Reviewing the wire diagram and the PCB board. I feel reasonably confident that you could solder the two leads coming from the front brake controler to the ends of the PCB board showing Orange and black (Ground) and end up with the same result.

As long as you give the orange wire on the right side PCB a ground the brake lights will come on. Take your time, do a good solder job, then make it all fit in the right control housing without anything rubbing/chaffing you should be good to go!

Sounds like a plan that'll work! :2thumbs:

Dennis

 

[DRBarnhart]

Not sure why nobody has thought of that since Left Hand boards are found for $20-$30 and Right hand are running $200.

It has been asked before and I'm pretty sure I said it would work then too. My only question is if a left PCB will fit in the right side housing since the connector would be facing the opposite direction...

Let us know!

Dennis

 

[Th3InfamousI]

As long as you give the orange wire on the right side PCB a ground the brake lights will come on. Take your time, do a good solder job, then make it all fit in the right control housing without anything rubbing/chaffing you should be good to go!

Sounds like a plan that'll work! :2thumbs:
Dennis

I went ahead and completed it last night going out to test it this morning. I ended up getting the old PCB to work last night after cleaning it. However during the cleaning process one of the leads to the board for the brake disconnected from the board. So I was stuck going back to my original plan of soldering on the leads.

I perfer the 05 boards as they "click" when you press them however as mentioned above the boot does not fit from an 04 to an 05 and the boot on my 05 Left Hand Board is without letters IE Start/Stop - Start - R-Turn.

Due to the above I figured I would try soldering on the original board leaving the Left Hand one for backup. I will try and get my hands on some Covers for the newer style boards and probably replace my 04's with 05 and up as they are much better.

I just want to say that if anyone is having right hand control board issues and you are 05 and up go ahead and get a left hand board and due a little surgery.

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It has been asked before and I'm pretty sure I said it would work then too. My only question is if a left PCB will fit in the right side housing since the connector would be facing the opposite direction...

Let us know!
Dennis

Yes, it will fit. I tested that first :2thumbs: At least on mine I had enough slack, not much but enough.

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[jsub]

I broke my brake wire off as well, but was able to solder it back & two years later still workng.

Are you sure you don't have any metal shavings left in there from drilling the hole out & shorting something out? I think some guys have that issue.

 

[Th3InfamousI]

I do think I have another problem however. Of course whenever I fix something I always make it WORST first.

It looks like I broke the fucking acctuator to the brake sensor. When I was messing with it I squeezed too hard and I heard something snap found half of the acctuator/magnet on the floor :bang:

Now how the FUCK do I put it back in???


I found it online on DigiKey $6 got it shipped 2nd day Air $40 :bang:
59020 Miniature Firecracker
http://www.digikey.com/scripts/DKSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&itemSeq=119980357&uq=634839865552543978\

 

[shovelshot]

I do think I have another problem however. Of course whenever I fix something I always make it WORST first.

It looks like I broke the fucking acctuator to the rear brake sensor. When I was messing with it I squeezed too hard and I heard something snap found half of the acctuator/magnet on the floor :bang:

Now how the FUCK do I put it back in???


I found it online on DigiKey $6 got it shipped 2nd day Air $40 :bang:
59020 Miniature Firecracker
Digi-Key Part Search

Why were you messing w/ the rear brakes now!!?

 

[DRBarnhart]

Here's one with an aluminum body..

http://www.digikey.com/scripts/DkSe...ng=en&keywords=59021-1-S-02-A&x=0&y=0&cur=USD

Dennis

 

[Th3InfamousI]

Why were you messing w/ the rear brakes now!!?

Typo...I fixed my rear brakes before this mess

 

[Th3InfamousI]

Here's one with an aluminum body..

http://www.digikey.com/scripts/DkSe...ng=en&keywords=59021-1-S-02-A&x=0&y=0&cur=USD

Dennis

Is there any benefit with the aluminum body?

Do you think epoxying the acctuator together will work? My understanding of the switch is a magnet and needs to pass by it. The distance is important to make the connection, if I glue it back together to bring it back to it's stock length do you think that will work?

 

[Nukeranger]

Eric,

Thanks for sharing this fix. I wish we lived closer because I would offer to help and gain the experience. Plus, I could give you back your beer koozie.

Huw

 

[DRBarnhart]

Is there any benefit with the aluminum body?

Only that it may be a little more resistant to getting crushed by the setscrew.

Do you think epoxying the acctuator together will work?

You'll have to come up with a way to hold the two pieces together while the glue sets since the halves will be pushing away from each other. And the field of the repaired magnet won't be quite as strong.

My understanding of the switch is a magnet and needs to pass by it.

The switch is a magnetic reed switch. The contacts inside "make" when they pass close to the actuator (magnet).

The distance is important to make the connection, if I glue it back together to bring it back to it's stock length do you think that will work?

The distance is important considering the closer it is the stronger the magnetic field on the reed switch. Glue it together with a two part epoxy and give it a shot... you got nothing to lose at this point!

Dennis

 

[Th3InfamousI]

You'll have to come up with a way to hold the two pieces together while the glue sets since the halves will be pushing away from each other. And the field of the repaired magnet won't be quite as strong.
Dennis

So that actually wasn't a problem, seems that the magnet is actually just in the tip. I waved the broken part past the switch and bingo Brake lights.

Used a little Gorilla glue as thats all I had on hand and presto stock length and seems like it shouldn't have any trouble holding it together. Tossing some rep to ShovelShot he called me this morning and he was the one who suggested I try gluing it.

DB just like to say thanks! It was good running a few things by ya. Bike is back up and rocking and rolling. Hopefully some other forum members who have bad/faulty right hand PCB boards can use some of this advise in the future to say some $$. Tossing some rep your way!

2 halves:

Heres a pic of the gluing.

Here is a pic of what I was trying to do before this whole mess started! The god damn Cruise-MATE! It's on now!!

 

[shovelshot]

Good deal Eric!

 

[Savage 1]

Well. To make it short I installed my CruiseMate this AM, figured it was a good idea prior to heading to BBBQ. Reassembled and right hand PCB not working. :bang:

I can occasssionally get the right turn signal to work but it's hit or miss. Can't get the fucker to start at all. Brake light works all the time though. I did blow the crap out of it to get all the shavings out prior and still no luck.

I happen to have a Left Hand Control Board that I purchased some time ago as I figured I might need it and it was cheap $20. Well I plugged that in just to confirm everythign is working order, viola everything works! Now only problem I'm missing the extra brake switch.

I'm looking for someone who knows what the board is doing with the brake switch? Is it turning it into a signal? Is there any way to circumvent the switch? IE run the front brake line directly into the Orange Brake Wire?

I'm not sure if I have any options here or need to get a new Right Hand switch, either way not sure how I'm going to make it to BBBQ. I can put it back together to get her going but no front brake light.

How did you test the PCB board? Is there a way to bench test it? I have all lights, but no turn signals, no crank, no start.