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Pops · Jan 31, 2009

Ya think we could just get a bottle of touch up paint like they do with cars....even Harley's :angry:

K9Anniv · Jan 31, 2009

Red Bull said:
Hey all.....I ordered a paint kit from Big Dog and it came in 4 parts. 1. Base yellow, 2. another yellow clear base, 3. clear and 4. hardener.

All I want to do is paint the bottom of my frame where it is scatched. I want to brush it on and be done with it.

Anyone know how to mix this group of 4 bottles to make it work???.....
I did read on the forum another guy had the same deal but was still a little confussed on how it's done....he was saying about mixing the hardener with the other 3 parts....anyway not sure....anyone know about this???...

thanks,
RED

I'd call BDM's customer service line and get directions. I had the same thing - cost like $30 and no instructions. Word of advise...better use it quick! If you let it sit too long it'll dry up, even if you don't open the bottles. I'd planned this as a winter project, ordered the paint kit last Fall, got it out last month to do the repair, and 2 of the 4 bottles were dried up hard as a rock!:bang:

Pops · Jan 31, 2009

roadking60102 said:
I'd call BDM's customer service line and get directions. I had the same thing - cost like $30 and no instructions. Word of advise...better use it quick! If you let it sit too long it'll dry up, even if you don't open the bottles. I'd planned this as a winter project, ordered the paint kit last Fall, got it out last month to do the repair, and 2 of the 4 bottles were dried up hard as a rock!:bang:

Same thing with mine....waste of $$$:angry:

FatDog · Jan 31, 2009

Try to use it as soon as you get it!!! I ordered a kit just to have on hand if I needed it, well that was a waste of money. It was dried and useless in no time! :down:

Roaddawg · Jan 31, 2009

It might be a tri-coat paint system. Typically you would use the base coat, add the "other" yellow, which is a midcoat. This midcoat is often used (like a candy or transparent color) to alter the hue or shade of the basecoat. The harderner most likely gets mixed in with the clear. If it is under the frame where it is not likely to be noticed, you could mix the two yellows together and apply at the same time, then clear coat. Having never used the BDM kit, is it intended to be sprayed or put on with a brush? If you intend to spray it, it may have to be thinned.

WB Cycles · Jan 31, 2009

roadking60102 said:
Word of advise...better use it quick! If you let it sit too long it'll dry up, even if you don't open the bottles. I'd planned this as a winter project, ordered the paint kit last Fall, got it out last month to do the repair, and 2 of the 4 bottles were dried up hard as a rock!:bang:

Same thing for ME! Didn't figure that out until last month though :angry:

NOW ... I make it a point to tell customers that the bottles are NOT sealed. :job:

07bigdog · Jan 31, 2009

I tried to buy some touch up paint at a body supply store and they couldn't cross reference the PPG paint number to Dupont. They used a machine on my frame to get the color and mixed me up a small bottle of touch up paint. I only wanted to touch up some scratches on the frame and it worked great

Moespeeds · Jan 31, 2009

They are probably sending you the paint already catalyzed, automotive paint mixes up like an epoxy, there is a color, a hardener, and something to determine how flexible it is. It will have a very short shelf life since the solvents in it are like acetone, and gas off very quickly. Yellow is also most likely a candy or pearl color, so you would put the base color, then the base clear, then the clear. I would say the hardener needs to be mixed with them all, but you'll have to check. Brushing will look like crap, but if you can't spray try a fine foam roller. Check with Big Dog on all of this, you need to know the mixing ratios. If I were you, I'd simply goto autozone and try to match up a rattle can color. It's going to be the easiest way and probably give you better results.

Mickeetwo · Jan 31, 2009

Red Bull said:
Yeah not sure.....I guess I'll call BDM...yeah it is 4 parts, yellow base, yellow clear, clear and then hardener. And yeah I'm going to brush it on....so I could mix the 2 yellows, paint that on, then mix the hardener and clear last after the first 2 dry and paint that on.....don't really care what it looks like just doing it for anti rust reasons.....

think that paint will last a week?

thanks for all the info....

RED

Put the kit in a ziplock bag and try to remove all the air. Store at room temp, should last a little while.

REMorris · Jan 31, 2009

It's going to look like shit if you brush it on. But it's your bike.

If your bike is down to bare metal (like scrapes will be), you will need to prime the bare metal. Better yet, if you have scrapes on the metal, you need to do a tin coat of filler (body putty) and sand it out smooth. Prime it and eventually sand it with fine paper until you have the edges feathered out and can no longer see any scratches. If you try and put paint on bare metal, it will not stick and will peel or flake off in a short period of time.

After the primer is finished, then you need to spray the base yellow (thin it as needed). IF you still see scratches in the base yellow, wet sand it with 600 to get rid of them again. Only after you have a good coat of base color will you apply the yellow clear (which is probably not a clear but a pearl or candy).

The final coat is the clear that has had the hardener mixed in with it. Again, it has to be sprayed. You only have maybe 2 hours after you mix the hardener before it starts setting up.

If you really don't care what it looks like (i.e. you still plan on brushing it on) my question to you is simple. Why do you have a Big Dog?

Richard

Moespeeds · Jan 31, 2009

BTW if you have bare metal down there, and rust, you should prep it with naval jelly or a spray product called "extend". It will neutralize the rust so it doesn't come back through the paint. Prime over that, then paint. FYI, all I do with my scratches and chips is brush them with an automotive touch up in the little nail polish bottle. I think maybe you're going a little overkill for just covering scratches on the bottom of your rails.

REMorris · Feb 1, 2009

Have you thought about putting something like a bed-liner coating on the underside of the frame (the spray on kind)? To me, this would look better than brushing paint on.

Yes, if you have any bare metal, you need to do prep on it before coating with anything.

pig pen · Feb 1, 2009

REMorris said:
Have you thought about putting something like a bed-liner coating on the underside of the frame (the spray on kind)? To me, this would look better than brushing paint on.

Yes, if you have any bare metal, you need to do prep on it before coating with anything.

Black bike maybe, on yellow NO.

bdmridgeback · Feb 1, 2009

I sent you a PM back with instructions with mixing the hardener with the base and clear.

stlmikie · Feb 1, 2009

Ya know pen. If I'm not mistaken, they are starting to do some basic color matching of that stuff even these days. Like red said, it is on the underneath of the bike and it would be that much more durable. I drag my frame on a regular basis anyway. I guess lucky for me my frame is black an that doesn't sound to bad with the liner. They have the roll on kind of that stuff too. Just a thought.

pig pen said:
Black bike maybe, on yellow NO.

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