Opinion on Clutch Issue needed

[NUKNUK]

Clutch popped while riding and had slack in it at the housing. Got it home, tightened clutch, so it's not the cable. Took the pushrod cover off and the pushrod nut is on and tight. The clutch basket was replaced 1500 miles ago with a bandit, so that's not it.

Before I go and take the primary cover off to check the pulley nut, does it mean anything that I can shift through all the gears and still move the bike around as if it were in neutral (bike is not running)? I hope that doesn't mean my main shaft is broke.

 

[BWG56]

If you can push it around while its in gear, any gear, I think your fears are about to come true. Sure sounds like the shaft.

 

[bigdogtech01]

Clutch popped while riding and had slack in it at the housing. Got it home, tightened clutch, so it's not the cable. Took the pushrod cover off and the pushrod nut is on and tight. The clutch basket was replaced 1500 miles ago with a bandit, so that's not it.

Before I go and take the primary cover off to check the pulley nut, does it mean anything that I can shift through all the gears and still move the bike around as if it were in neutral (bike is not running)? I hope that doesn't mean my main shaft is broke.

If you can push it around while its in gear, any gear, I think your fears are about to come true. Sure sounds like the shaft.

Yup, main shaft for sure..you have an '05 so it has the old shaft in it...call Baker and see what kind of deal they can get you on a new shaft...think of me if you want it rebuilt...I can put better bearings in it at the same price as Baker is charging using cheap bearings...
Keep in mind when you call Baker that they had heat treat problems with that shat....Just an FYI.

 

[NUKNUK]

Damn....I just finished putting everything back together in July. Go figure.

Time to read up on the manual and teach myself how to get the tranny off the bike. Anyone ever do this? Any suggestions?

In the meantime, I'll be giving Baker a call tomorrow.

 

[erldawg]

Damn....I just finished putting everything back together in July. Go figure.

Time to read up on the manual and teach myself how to get the tranny off the bike. Anyone ever do this? Any suggestions?

In the meantime, I'll be giving Baker a call tomorrow.

Not hard to take off. You will need to jack the bike up and remove shocks on the frame side (front side) to loosen the tranny bolts.

Andrew will take care of ya. He was Rochester Thunder's numero uno Tech. :2thumbs:

 

[Bobby Schulz]

Sounds like a shaft to me as well... I also offer a rebuild service if needed.

 

[bigdogtech01]

Damn....I just finished putting everything back together in July. Go figure.

Time to read up on the manual and teach myself how to get the tranny off the bike. Anyone ever do this? Any suggestions?

In the meantime, I'll be giving Baker a call tomorrow.

Your only 2.5 hrs from me...You have a truck and trailer? Or take the transmission out and just bring that up
I get $75 plus parts to rebuild it with ALL the bearings ( 9 )..., not just the 2 or 3 that Baker will do...

 

[Fibersnake]

Clutch popped while riding and had slack in it at the housing. Got it home, tightened clutch, so it's not the cable. Took the pushrod cover off and the pushrod nut is on and tight. The clutch basket was replaced 1500 miles ago with a bandit, so that's not it.

Before I go and take the primary cover off to check the pulley nut, does it mean anything that I can shift through all the gears and still move the bike around as if it were in neutral (bike is not running)? I hope that doesn't mean my main shaft is broke.

Hopefully it not the main shaft, though very possible. Since you indicated that you had slake in the cable, it may be that the clutch plates hung up and the cltuch plates did not fully engage. I have had that occur on mine before. So advise that you pull the primary cover, and check the clutch very good, make sure none of the plates have hung up in the carrier.

Maybe get lucky and find that it is simple clutch plates that did not disengage and if so, recommend complete disaasembly of the clutch, clean and lube plates, clean carrier and reassembly.

Hoepfully it is not the main shaft or tranny and the cable being slack would make me lean more towards non engaged plates than broken shaft. BY chance did you check the accuator yoke for the clutch rod also to make sure a ramp ball or ferrel did come out of place or break?

 

[NUKNUK]

Hopefully it not the main shaft, though very possible. Since you indicated that you had slake in the cable, it may be that the clutch plates hung up and the cltuch plates did not fully engage. I have had that occur on mine before. So advise that you pull the primary cover, and check the clutch very good, make sure none of the plates have hung up in the carrier.

Maybe get lucky and find that it is simple clutch plates that did not disengage and if so, recommend complete disaasembly of the clutch, clean and lube plates, clean carrier and reassembly.

Hoepfully it is not the main shaft or tranny and the cable being slack would make me lean more towards non engaged plates than broken shaft. BY chance did you check the accuator yoke for the clutch rod also to make sure a ramp ball or ferrel did come out of place or break?

Haven't checked that yet, because I'm not familiar with that stuff. I have zero experience on working with mc motors and trannies, but sure I can figure it out (I did have the bike torn down over the winter to just frame, motor, and tranny and put it back together with no problems). I have all the manuals and plan on doing a thorough inspection this weekend. Hopefully the manuals will give me enough info to know what to actually look for. I just checked the pushrod nut behind the cover so far. Plan to take the primary off saturday morning and learn what else to look for as well so I don't miss anything before I go through the whole process of taking the tranny off and sending it to Andrew. I called a place in erie, just in case I didn't feel like messing with it, and they wanted way too much........so needless to say I'll do as much as I can on my own, no matter how long it takes.

 

[NUKNUK]

Well I didn't hear anything or anything banging around when this happened, so maybe I'll get lucky this weekend when I start diving into it.

 

[KaptinAmerika]

Good Luck Nuk I wish you all the best.
Nothing ever turns out well like that for me.
Usually its the other way around.

 

[NUKNUK]

Good Luck Nuk I wish you all the best.
Nothing ever turns out well like that for me.
Usually its the other way around.

me too man. maybe i can catch a break. i know these bikes have problems but i was fortunate enough to never have one until now, and it sucks to happen right after i finished tweakin it out. watch...after this is done, my ehc will go, or somethin with the tp rockers.

 

[boomer4444]

i would check ball and ramp first!! easy on and off,, sounds like maybe ferrel came off cable

 

[bigdogtech01]

i would check ball and ramp first!! easy on and off,, sounds like maybe ferrel came off cable

If he can put the transmission in any gear and still able to push it around as if it's in neutral, it's most likely a Main shaft broken...If you can start bike up and put in gear and still nothing...I'll put money on it being Main shaft....Baker has a hard time admitting to the problem with the shafts, but they in fact di during that time period...At least his broke clean off and didn't lock the transmission up while going 70mph

 

[Slick-Dog]

Not hard to take off. You will need to jack the bike up and remove shocks on the frame side (front side) to loosen the tranny bolts.

Andrew will take care of ya. He was Rochester Thunder's numero uno Tech. :2thumbs:

Earl, hes got a ridgeback

 

[Brew]

Earl, hes got a ridgeback

Yep, he'll have to drop his oil tank in order to get to the trans bolts.

 

[DRBarnhart]

Before I go and take the primary cover off to check the pulley nut, does it mean anything that I can shift through all the gears and still move the bike around as if it were in neutral (bike is not running)?

While I wouldn't bet a buck against what these guys are telling about the shaft... could you have overtightened the clutch cable to the point the clutch is disengaged all the time?

Dennis

 

[erldawg]

Earl, hes got a ridgeback

Guess he's going have a hard time dropping the shocks...:lol::lol::lol:

Should have looked at his ride first....Doh

 

[NUKNUK]

While I wouldn't bet a buck against what these guys are telling about the shaft... could you have overtightened the clutch cable to the point the clutch is disengaged all the time?

Dennis

Nope, I've messed with the cable a few times. Planning on taking the primary off tomorrow now....i'll keep u guys posted.

 

[CND Dog]

Check the ball and ramp, if you adjust the cable to the point the balls went beyond the ramp, the clutch remains "pulled" if this is the case,your handle would be loose, as if you broke the cable, if this is the case, your clutch push rod is permanently pushed.