NO POWER! At All!!!!

Energy One

Pero Maldito

Texas Rider
OK guys. I know i might get really flamed for this, but i have spent hours following advice listed in other threads with guys with close to the same issue.
I have a 2006 BDM Chopper. 117 S&S.
I went to start this morning and being that we had a coldfront come in over night it did the usual of almost starting but not enough juice. So I did what I normally do and hooked up my little jump starter for the extra boost. This always works right of way and then I take it off and let it idle for a bit.
Anyways, this morning I did the same but this time it went "clicky clicky click". I tried three (3) times and on the third I lost everything! NO POWER!
I have looked over the bike for any shorts and followed some of the advice found but nothing.

I did discover that when the cables are disconnected from the battery for a bit then reinstalled it will have power again, BBBUUUTTTTT as soon as I try push start it goes dead! TOTALLY!

I have repeated disconnecting the cables repeatedly with the same result. I get power, but as soon as I even try to start it it just goes DEAD!

PLEASE HELP!!

I am not all knowing all the abbreviations and codes, so please explain as if I were a child.:bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang:
 

mobsta

Well-Known Member
have you checked your battery?how old is your battery?i would start there.see where that goes first.weak batteries cause all kinds of problems:)
 

Little-Boo

Well-Known Member
Troop Supporter
If you have had to jump start it several times before, don't you think you battery finally said fuck this shit, I quit. If you have no power at all, it starts at the battery. Every time you pull the cables the system will reset. But there is not enough juice in the battery to keep it going. I would replace the battery, for some reason (to old) it is not maintaining the charge overnight. MY :zz2cents:

Carlos :whoop:
 

woodbutcher

Mr. Old Fart member #145
Staff member
and don't just get any battery. it has to be a good one and make sure it has been through a deep charge before you install it. a battery straight off the shelf is not necessarily a good battery.
 

LARS

sippin & cruzin
Disconnect the batt.for 10-15 min,the bike will reset itself(sounds crazy,but it should do the trick,I forget who,but I got the same adv,from someone on this site),but if your going to disconnect,you might as well charge it overnight……Later,Larry
 

Pero Maldito

Texas Rider
Hey KnotSo, what does the reset button look like? I have searched for it and found nothing. Also, where would it be?

I went to AutoZone and got the best replacement battery they had. Guy there said he uses it on his Harley that has a S&S motor that was modified and the regular battery wasn't enough.

Anyways, the only thing that comes on now is the headlight, so i pluged my bike into the battery tender and will hit it again in the morning.

Thanks for all the help and reply guys. this is the best site.

Oh and by the way, i was fixing to load her up and take her down to a custom dealer to see if they would give me a good price. I have been out of work for some time now and am in desperate need of money. Funny thing though, as soon as it didn't start I got a call on my 08 Horton Hauler. Enclosed V-nose 7x14 bike trailer. She was a beauty and was all customized, even down to the rims. But the 5 g's will help pay a lot of bills.
 

Pero Maldito

Texas Rider
Chopper Dave, I have something like that but its red, only one screw post and has no button.
?????? Not sure what to do now.
 

Chopper Dave

SIICK!!!
Chopper Dave, I have something like that but its red, only one screw post and has no button.
?????? Not sure what to do now.
that was a pic from Gas Man....do you have the fuse instead of the circuit breaker? if you have that little box...the black button would be facing down ...you have to feel around there...do you have a pic we could look at?
 

Chopper Dave

SIICK!!!
oh..ok....yeah...if you had the circuit breaker....if you jump your bike...it trips that black button...but you don't have that...make sure your fuse is not blown.. do a voltage check on your battery and make sure its good and that its charging....
 

lee

Well-Known Member
only thing I would add to what Dave said is that it is fine to do a voltage check on the battery but you also need the amps tested and you (unless you got the gear) will need to take it to a shop for that. A DIY multimeter like most of us will have will not do that.
 

V

Guru
When my bat was shot it would do the same thing try to start and everyting would go dead. Did this a couple of times. Any way push started it and got home took the bat out and went to the Harley Dealer and got a new bat. Hooked the new bat to a battery tender and did not put it into the bike until the charger went in to maintenace mode (took over night). Also keep it on a battery tender at all times.
 

bigdogtech01

Well-Known Member
Any sort of electrical problem you almost always start with your battery. First off make sure it is charged, then load test it with a good load tester, such as Auto meter or Snap-on, not one of them Harbor Freight Cheese grader types:) Load test it at 20 amps and see what it's % is at. If it is less than 80% it needs a new battery. You bike is setup with an EHC (computer) that will not allow that bike to turn over if it senses that the battery is not fully charged. It is set up like this to save your $400+ starter. Keep in mind that when you have a dead battery, DO NOT try jumping it with a high amperage, such as your CAR or TRUCK running, use a lower amperage car jump box, the ones with the built in battery. I have seen and replaced EHC's because a customer jumps there bike with their car or truck.
A good battery is a Harley or YUASA battery. Interstate is not bad either.
You say you have the MAXI Fuse, not the Circuit Breaker? You need to have one or the other, not both, Also keep in mind that MAXI Fuse is only to be used with a Voltage Regulator that has a printed date on the bottom side of '04 and '05 ONLY. If it is '06 and up you need to have the Circuit breaker put back in. Once you get your bike running make sure it is charging at at least 13VDC @ Idle to 3000RPM (no more than 14.6 VDC)
I have to go to work now, if you have any other questions feel free to ask. If I can i will get a picture of the bottom of your Volt. Reg and the location of the date.
Good luck to ya.
 

RRRUFF

Well-Known Member
Pero, starting with the battery is good. Don't know which battery you bought but you need to get a AGM (glass mat) battery. If the bike will start then check the charging system, check voltage at the battery with a volt meter. You should get 13 - 14 volts with bike running. Whats important here is you get a higher voltage than you did with the bike not running. If you don't get that voltage then check the alternator by unplugging the voltage regulator wire at the front left of the engine on the out side. Not the wire with the socket head allen screw holding it down. Set you meter to AC voltage and check the out put of the stator with the bike idling, should be 20 volts while idling and increase as RPMs go up. If this is good then and you are not getting 13 - 14 volts at the battery, you probably have a bad voltage regulator.

If bike dosen't start after new battery installed then check you ignition system. The red led on the ignition module should light up when the bike is turned on and you hit the run button. If this doesn't happen then check the voltage going to the ignition module. If you have no voltage there then probably you have a faulty EHC (electronic harness controler) and my guess would be from jump starting the bike due to a weak battery. The EHC doesn't like jump starting. With all this said hopefully the right new battery will get you going. Get a battery tender if you don't have one and don't use a battery booster. You can jump start but only with a 12 volt battery and with jump battery vechile not running. Hope this helps.
 

BikersDream

We build what you Dream!
Some really good advice here. Start with your battery first. Don’t forget the ground wire connected to the starter. I have seen when techs uses an impact to attach the ground wire to starter bolt it cracks the end; breaking the connection just enough to cause a loss of power at start up.
 

Pero Maldito

Texas Rider
Cant seem to get photos off this mac book.
I put the battery on my tender last night. Took it to AutoZone this morning and tested all good. Hooked it back up to the bike and got only the headlamp coming on.
I have searched everywhere for this reset button and have had no luck. Does anyone have the same bike as me and would know exactly what and where to look?

I dont have all these voltage stuff and am a little confused as to what is being said and what to test. I used to build street strip hot rods but never had any electrical issues that I had to deal with, so this language is all new to me. The only thing electrical that i messed with was wiring up nitrous and an MSD box. This is so way different about being sensitive to how i jump it and what not to do. I always that these were the muscle cars of all motorcycles and that they kind of worked the same. Carburated, needs power and fuel.:bang::bang::bang::bang::bang:
 
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