Is this my starter

[Pitman]

2005 Pitbull , I was starting my bike this morning it took a few times turning over then it started doing this is this signs of a bad starter or something else clicking ???

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[Rottweiler]

Check your voltage on the big wire and also the green wire. Also check the ground. If all that checks out. Take apart the solinod and clean the contacts.

 

[Pitman]

what am I looking for anything over 12V? is ok ?

 

[Coolbreezin]

Sounds like a thin metal is being hit.

 

[Rottweiler]

Yes

 

[Pitman]

Thanks Rottweiler saved me some bucks , I tore the starter solenoid down and cleaned all the connections and contacts and it cranked after that thanks again.

 

[Pitman]

ok so after doing all that that you said yesterday it turned over last night but now its doing the same thing any thoughts bad starter ?

 

[HMAN]

I cant get the video to play..
Can u describe what it is doing?

 

[Pitman]

its just a single click open and then closed click that comes from the pressure relief valves other than that nothing at all

 

[Mikeinjersey]

its just a single click open and then closed click that comes from the pressure relief valves other than that nothing at all

When the start button is pressed 2 things happen. The compression releases get voltage and the starter solenoid gets voltage at the same time. The CR's only hit for 1 second which is most likely what you are hearing. If you put your finger on the top of one of the CR's you should be able to feel it. As for checking the starter solenoid voltage, pull the green wire off the starter and put a meter on it to ground. You will probably see maybe 4-8 vdc when you turn the key on but after you press Run then Start the voltage will jump to 12 vdc. if the Ehc is sending the shot to the starter solenoid. If the voltage does not increase you have an EHC issue. If it does give the shot the problem will be with the starter . Sometimes where the wire enters the solenoid it gets cracked or broken .
In the past I had the exact same issue which turned out to be an EHC issue. As crazy as it may seem if I warmed up the EHC with a hair dryer I would get the 12v on the green wire to trigger the solenoid.
The fix for the failing EHC is either a Slam Button or Installing a hot wire to the solenoid with a momentary on switch.

 

[Mr. Wright]

2005 Pitbull , I was starting my bike this morning it took a few times turning over then it started doing this is this signs of a bad starter or something else clicking ???

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This is what I'd check next. Disconnect the neg battery cable. Remove the cover off the back of the solenoid. and remove the plunger. On the left side, where the green wire connector goes through to the inside of the solenoid, take a small screw driver, and gently see if that solder connection is broken.


If it is resolder it. Common problem on the older starters.

 

[Pitman]

Thanks for the help guys here's an update on where I am. So first night it started i tore the starter out and cleaned all the solenoid connections inside and out as well as all main connections to the starter , I used 600 sandpaper on all of them. it did turn over after that . days 2 the same thing I've now checked the voltage on the green wire when i hit the start but to rule out EHC or starter issue as Mike suggested , it was reading over 12v so that's good. I looked inside the starter as you described Mr.Wright as you can see from the pictures nothing seems broken . So now I'm wondering would a slam button work for this situation as a tester. ? I could install it and if it starts then it is defiantly the starter for one win and then I ill just buy one and then install the slam button as a back up on the new starter . Any thoughts ? or any other things I could try before going this route ?

 

[Mikeinjersey]

If you are getting 12vdc to the solenoid and you don't see anything broken under the cover it would definitely indicate you have an issue with the solenoid or the starter or both. Your slam button idea is good. You could also pull the starter and bench test it or have a starter shop take a look at it .
In your description of failure you did say after you cleaned things up that it did work but failed again. It could be possible you have an intermittent 12 vdc to the starter. Just to be sure put it all back together and leave the green wire off and read the voltage when you hit run/start 3 or 4 times looking for the 12 vdc. If you get the 12vdc reconnect the wire back up to the starter and hit run/start again while you listen/feel for the solenoid to react. Make sure your in neutral just in case it cranks.

 

[Pitman]

Thanks Mike, I did the voltage check at least 10 time all went above 12v

 

[Rottweiler]

I agree take the starter to a shop much cheaper than a new one.

 

[Rottweiler]

You either have a loose connection or broken wire in the winding.