Is there another Oil Drain Plug location?

[Chuck3d]

I can smell that the oil in the 2007 Bulldog is needing to be changed. But when I go to unscrew the drain plug, I found that whomever tried to change it last time broke off 2 of the 6 sides. I have another on order and I'm sure I'll have to remove the oil tank to remove the broken plug. So for the short term, is there another location for completely draining the oil?

 

[awg]

You can try to siphon it out of the tank. Home depot sells them. I have used them before on my 04 chopper.

 

[Chuck3d]

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You can try to siphon it out of the tank. Home depot sells them. I have used them before on my 04 chopper.

Was thinking of that. Thanks.

 

[Jersey Big Mike]

You might want to try a small brass punch and see if you can tap it loose and get it out that way without having to pull the oil tank.

 

[Chuck3d]

You might want to try a small brass punch and see if you can tap it loose and get it out that way without having to pull the oil tank.

I think I get what you mean. I'll try that, I tried the siphoning and couldn't get the tube to sit in the lower corner. It was the multiple bends that stopped it from getting all the way in the tank, so I only got about a cup of oil out. 11 more cups to go.

 

[Th3InfamousI]

It's hard to get that being under the bike but try a torque bit see if you can get one wedged in there to unscrew the bolt. I've taken a rubber mallet and got torque bits in before on damaged hex bolts. You got nothing to lose.

Also If you can get the right size ez out that might bite enough. Hopefully they didn't overtighten it to the max so it will come out easier.

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[Jersey Big Mike]

It's hard to get that being under the bike but try a torque bit see if you can get one wedged in there to unscrew the bolt. I've taken a rubber mallet and got torque bits in before on damaged hex bolts. You got nothing to lose.

Also If you can get the right size ez out that might bite enough. Hopefully they didn't overtighten it to the max so it will come out easier.

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That would be a TORX bit not torque as in amount of force!

I'm thinking if it's that ugly it's not likely to come out easily but here's hoping I'm wrong on that!

 

[Th3InfamousI]

That would be a TORX bit not torque as in amount of force!

I'm thinking if it's that ugly it's not likely to come out easily but here's hoping I'm wrong on that!

More technically named the hexalobular bit

Spell check...it thinks it's so SMAHT sometimes. Haha

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[Mr. Wright]

Left hand drill

 

[Chuck3d]

I did try the Torx bit deal. No go. I'll hit up the guys in our machine shop tomorrow and pick their brains. The guys in the model shop are awesome. But they'll probably have me trying some apparatus to turn the bike upside down and stud weld a rod to it.

 

[SKOGDOG]

That one looks tough. Never had to do it, but on a couple of desperate occasions Blacktopper and I have discussed laying down a couple of padded blankets on the grass and put the bike on its side to get at a hard-to-access problem underneath. I agree with Shannon’s remark about a left handed drill bit too. From the looks of the plug, you should be able to center the drill bit OK. Probably gonna be a mess no matter what. Also—I begged the local donut shop for an old tray (about 2’X3’) that is used anytime oil is drained—saves a lot of serious cleanups. Please do let us know how this gets resolved—we love to hear about clever ‘hacks’. Good luck!!

 

[Jersey Big Mike]

I did try the Torx bit deal. No go. I'll hit up the guys in our machine shop tomorrow and pick their brains. The guys in the model shop are awesome. But they'll probably have me trying some apparatus to turn the bike upside down and stud weld a rod to it.

Last one lose to that bad I actually tried using some jb weld on a sacrificial bit to hold it to the bolt -- couldn't get enough bit to do the job but it wasn't striped as bad as this one is.

 

[pknowles]

Drill a small hole up thru the plug and tap in an easy out. If you don't have a right angle drill. Most rental shops should have one. Those plugs aren't very long.. just be careful and slow.

 

[Chuck3d]

I was thinking about the hole and the easy out, but I'm hesitant due to any of either the magnet or any metal shavings that might be pushed up into the tank. That was the only reason that I figured I'd have to take the tank off.
I've been looking at the drawings from the downloaded manual and I can't tell if I have to remove the rear end to remove the oil tank or just everything under the seat from the battery down. Anyone konw?

 

[Chuck3d]

That one looks tough. Never had to do it, but on a couple of desperate occasions Blacktopper and I have discussed laying down a couple of padded blankets on the grass and put the bike on its side to get at a hard-to-access problem underneath. I agree with Shannon’s remark about a left handed drill bit too. From the looks of the plug, you should be able to center the drill bit OK. Probably gonna be a mess no matter what. Also—I begged the local donut shop for an old tray (about 2’X3’) that is used anytime oil is drained—saves a lot of serious cleanups. Please do let us know how this gets resolved—we love to hear about clever ‘hacks’. Good luck!!

LOL... I have thought about this idea too. build a wooden frame to tip the bike on the side, but protect the crushable parts. And then get to it that way. A weeks worth of work to get to a $10 dollar screw.

 

[pknowles]

I was thinking about the hole and the easy out, but I'm hesitant due to any of either the magnet or any metal shavings that might be pushed up into the tank. That was the only reason that I figured I'd have to take the tank off.
I've been looking at the drawings from the downloaded manual and I can't tell if I have to remove the rear end to remove the oil tank or just everything under the seat from the battery down. Anyone konw?

Go slow, like really slow and you will feel the bit breaking thru. The remaining oil should flush any shavings out the bung

 

[FrankBDPS]

I wonder if some "well meaning" mechanic used red loctite on that plug. If so wouldn't it take just a little bit of heat, maybe from a heat gun rather than a flame wrench, to break it loose?

I quess there is something to say about the older bikes like my old beater with a hose and a drain plug hanging from the oil tank.

Good luck.

 

[Chuck3d]

I wonder if some "well meaning" mechanic used red loctite on that plug. If so wouldn't it take just a little bit of heat, maybe from a heat gun rather than a flame wrench, to break it loose?

I quess there is something to say about the older bikes like my old beater with a hose and a drain plug hanging from the oil tank.

Good luck.

I was curious about the loctite use also. I figured I'd take out the primary drain plug and see if there is loctite on that. That would at least be an indicator if they used it on the oil plug also. I never thought about a heat gun, I was more leaning towards my micro torch that put out a pinpoint flame. Good suggestion. Thanks.

 

[Mickmorris]

Drill a small hole up thru the plug and tap in an easy out. If you don't have a right angle drill. Most rental shops should have one. Those plugs aren't very long.. just be careful and slow.

 

[Steven Proctor]

ERWIN makes a bolt extractor kit that has various sizes. Also there is the Gator Grip socket. There are several different brands that sell universal sockets to get off rounded bolts. One of those my do the trick. Hopefully you can get it out without laying the bike on it's side.