Is BDM really done? not so fast....

Energy One

machete

Member
I've read all the posts. I've read the articles, and yes, including all the wannabe custom builders opinions. Allow me to impart a different perspective, one in which I have nothing to gain from, nor have a personal ax to grind as some of these wannabe builders do.

I've been in the corporate life for almost 30 years. There are only a couple differences between Harley's company lifecycle and BDM, although leathal.

First, Harley was more lucky than good. To their credit however, they recognized, or rather stumbled upon the secret to sales success. But dont think for a minute that what happened to BDM didnt happen to Harley.

The secret Harley stumbled upon was the only real thing that everyone is willing to buy. That one thing everyone wants, all the time. No, Harley didnt invent it, and no, Harley isnt the only company that sells it.

What is it you ask? ..........wait..............wait for it................

The Dream. Yes. simply put, The Dream.

The Dream is the easiest thing to sell. Why? simple. Because everyone wants to Believe! Tap into these two inherent human characteristics, and you have significant power and influence over another person, entity, thing.

It is in our DNA. These two powerful emotions (again, emotions), are the compelling drivers that cause people to act.

So, what the hell does this have to do with Harley or BDM? Again, elementary.

Harley stumbled upon the Dream. They recognized and tapped into a very powerful need by a broad population that was desperately searching to identify with a made popular alter ego. Remember Marlon Brando? The biker life style, live free, that whole notion of being able to detach from the day in the life of the average and ordinary suburban lifestyle.

HD capitalized on all the mom and pops with their 2 1/2 kids, living in the suburbs, dual incomes, 2 car garage, with disposable income, market. They offered the Dream of an alternative lifestyle, albeit limited to weekends and holidays. 40 somethings all across the country drove their mini vans to their local neighborhood HD dealer, signed their financing papers, and rode off with their $300/month RoadKing payments.

Mom would drop Johnny off at little league, while dad, the average waistline bulging corporate burnout who finally figured out his secretary wasnt really gonna give it up to him so the next best thing was to dress his wife up in chapps, was warming his alter ego up in his garage next to his leased bimmer.

Mom would rush home in anticipation of dating her old, er, new bad boy husband who found new interest in her! Hell yes he can finance that fucking harley, I'm skinny and beautiful again!

So off they go to hang out and look cool and bad at the local suburban HD dealership, pay $40 for a T shirt, and mom can sling her titts into that $50 harley halter top. Cool man!

Harley's business model is greatly supplemented by selling biker wannabees expensive t shirts, jeans, bandanas, whatever it takes to make you "believe" youre really cooler than the Joneses next door...hell yes you'll pay....its a dream! and they get you to 'believe' you're really a cool bad ass!

Take a look at today's harley dealership. It's a friggin Walmart of motorcycle parafanalia. And therein lies the major advantage HD had over BDM. Harley tapped into the Dream (desire) of middle american, and the need to exercise the alter ego of us corporate burnouts logging 50-60 work weeks saying "yes" to the Man. We can have that little sense of bad boy that frees us from our slave jobs. And hell, mom actually gets out of her suburban cargo pants and flip flops and is willing to squeeeze into a pair of jeans 3 sizes too small for her, and wear boots, and if Im lucky, cuss a few words every now and then. Now that's worth my $300/month payment for sure.

It was the perfect storm of good timing, a post industrial bulging middle class burnouts seeking detachment, and good economic times, not to mention little competition. HD diversified their portfolio in selling clothes, key chains, etc. all to feed your Dream!

BDM, well, they made a classic mistake. They drank their kool aid. Yes, they made the coolest bikes in the world. Yes, many, many people wanted them. But, that's it! No supplemental revenue stream, no really creative marketing.
Dang, why not roll one of these bad boys into the middle of the cage of every UFC pay per view event? Why not roll them across the field at the Super Bowl? Why didnt BDM go out and Market their brand and create new customers? How did they tap into a sustainable revenue stream?

They didnt. They just made and sold bad ass bikes. Unfortunately, it wasnt enough, and in these economic times, there wasn't an AMF around to help them through a rough patch.

So what's the good news you ask? ..... We're all still here. The market lives, quietly and a little dormant? yes, but alive!

There is no question in my mind BDM will be back.

It's elementary.
 

sinbad767

Member
I think the problem with BD is that they did not diversify. BD makes Bad-ass bikes but...... the reality is only a small percentage of riders prefer the style of bike that BD offered. Obviously all riders on this forum love the style and performance of our BD bikes. But, I ride with many many riders who think the style of our bikes are simply over the top.
We have bikes that are very unique and very expensive. IMO BD's demise is the result of two things: Too unique (why we like them) and/or too expensive (for the average Joe).

JS
 

machete

Member
I think the problem with BD is that they did not diversify. BD makes Bad-ass bikes but...... the reality is only a small percentage of riders prefer the style of bike that BD offered. Obviously all riders on this forum love the style and performance of our BD bikes. But, I ride with many many riders who think the style of our bikes are simply over the top.
We have bikes that are very unique and very expensive. IMO BD's demise is the result of two things: Too unique (why we like them) and/or too expensive (for the average Joe).

JS
You're right. I just think there's more of us out there that BDM never reached.
 

toodie

Active Member
Machete bravo my friend well stated :up:

They did have a cool video advert that I came across in my search for a BDM that was bad ass just like the bike...to me any way. I am not going to say this advert made my decision to purchase but it sure did get me pumped! Maybe they should have had a tv marketing program that included this vid:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaPGEpMHxpM]YouTube - Big Dog Motorcycles Brand Introduction[/ame]

This one was pretty good too:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONvf9Dk0Ldo]YouTube - Big Dog Motorcycles Commercial[/ame]

Sorry to jack the thread with vids...again well done Machete!
 

PaulHart

Well-Known Member
Your wrong at least for my part. I bought my bike because the color matched the pair of tennis shoes I had on.

 

nine lives

Active Member
One other thing that I would like to add. I also have been riding for almost 40 years, started riding at about age 7 by the way. One thing that held me back from buying one of these great bikes back in 05 when BD had a demo day was the price. I loved the bike, knew as soon as I took off on the bike that I wanted one, but that price, couldn't swing it. Fast forward to 09, saw a major price drop on used BD bikes. Got an 06 Mastiff with 1000 miles on the clock for half the price of new. That is the price of a new HD, more affordable to a person like me. I know our bikes have the best performance parts and are 10 times better looking, but that still didn't help me afford a new bike.
 

2004BC

FREEDOM!!!
I've read all the posts. I've read the articles, and yes, including all the wannabe custom builders opinions. Allow me to impart a different perspective, one in which I have nothing to gain from, nor have a personal ax to grind as some of these wannabe builders do.

I've been in the corporate life for almost 30 years. There are only a couple differences between Harley's company lifecycle and BDM, although leathal.

First, Harley was more lucky than good. To their credit however, they recognized, or rather stumbled upon the secret to sales success. But dont think for a minute that what happened to BDM didnt happen to Harley.

The secret Harley stumbled upon was the only real thing that everyone is willing to buy. That one thing everyone wants, all the time. No, Harley didnt invent it, and no, Harley isnt the only company that sells it.

What is it you ask? ..........wait..............wait for it................

The Dream. Yes. simply put, The Dream.

The Dream is the easiest thing to sell. Why? simple. Because everyone wants to Believe! Tap into these two inherent human characteristics, and you have significant power and influence over another person, entity, thing.

It is in our DNA. These two powerful emotions (again, emotions), are the compelling drivers that cause people to act.

So, what the hell does this have to do with Harley or BDM? Again, elementary.

Harley stumbled upon the Dream. They recognized and tapped into a very powerful need by a broad population that was desperately searching to identify with a made popular alter ego. Remember Marlon Brando? The biker life style, live free, that whole notion of being able to detach from the day in the life of the average and ordinary suburban lifestyle.

HD capitalized on all the mom and pops with their 2 1/2 kids, living in the suburbs, dual incomes, 2 car garage, with disposable income, market. They offered the Dream of an alternative lifestyle, albeit limited to weekends and holidays. 40 somethings all across the country drove their mini vans to their local neighborhood HD dealer, signed their financing papers, and rode off with their $300/month RoadKing payments.

Mom would drop Johnny off at little league, while dad, the average waistline bulging corporate burnout who finally figured out his secretary wasnt really gonna give it up to him so the next best thing was to dress his wife up in chapps, was warming his alter ego up in his garage next to his leased bimmer.

Mom would rush home in anticipation of dating her old, er, new bad boy husband who found new interest in her! Hell yes he can finance that fucking harley, I'm skinny and beautiful again!

So off they go to hang out and look cool and bad at the local suburban HD dealership, pay $40 for a T shirt, and mom can sling her titts into that $50 harley halter top. Cool man!

Harley's business model is greatly supplemented by selling biker wannabees expensive t shirts, jeans, bandanas, whatever it takes to make you "believe" youre really cooler than the Joneses next door...hell yes you'll pay....its a dream! and they get you to 'believe' you're really a cool bad ass!

Take a look at today's harley dealership. It's a friggin Walmart of motorcycle parafanalia. And therein lies the major advantage HD had over BDM. Harley tapped into the Dream (desire) of middle american, and the need to exercise the alter ego of us corporate burnouts logging 50-60 work weeks saying "yes" to the Man. We can have that little sense of bad boy that frees us from our slave jobs. And hell, mom actually gets out of her suburban cargo pants and flip flops and is willing to squeeeze into a pair of jeans 3 sizes too small for her, and wear boots, and if Im lucky, cuss a few words every now and then. Now that's worth my $300/month payment for sure.

It was the perfect storm of good timing, a post industrial bulging middle class burnouts seeking detachment, and good economic times, not to mention little competition. HD diversified their portfolio in selling clothes, key chains, etc. all to feed your Dream!

BDM, well, they made a classic mistake. They drank their kool aid. Yes, they made the coolest bikes in the world. Yes, many, many people wanted them. But, that's it! No supplemental revenue stream, no really creative marketing.
Dang, why not roll one of these bad boys into the middle of the cage of every UFC pay per view event? Why not roll them across the field at the Super Bowl? Why didnt BDM go out and Market their brand and create new customers? How did they tap into a sustainable revenue stream?

They didnt. They just made and sold bad ass bikes. Unfortunately, it wasnt enough, and in these economic times, there wasn't an AMF around to help them through a rough patch.

So what's the good news you ask? ..... We're all still here. The market lives, quietly and a little dormant? yes, but alive!

There is no question in my mind BDM will be back.

It's elementary.
I said it before and I'll say it again. DAMN YOU'RE GOOD!!!! A touch cynical but straight to the bone!!! Thank you very much for the insight!:cheers:
 

alxdamon

Member
Wow, Machete I think your dead on. We have both a HD Dealership and a BDM Dealer here in town. HD forced the owner to build a new Walmart dealership, and yes it is filled to the brim w/ all the extras. I love our BDM dealership and have become good friend w/ the owners but BD has always been about the bikes and service. I never saw BD pushing all the extras. I hate to say but maybe I wish they had as part of the big picture. Our bikes are special and always will be. I wish the best for all the BD dealerships, may the find a way to keep going.
 

Shawn

Member
Awesome!! I have great hopes that BDM will take the time to read this WELL WRITTEN AND THOUGHT OUT post and figure out what THEY need to do. I agree that they need to market their BAD ASS product!! I would LOVE to see BDM make the ULTIMATE comeback!! Good luck BDM and again, GREAT post Machete!!!!!

Shawn
 

bdwolf

Member
great post, i agree.for most it is just a matter of the price.i love big dogs as much as anyone here and i had enough money and credit to buy one in 05.found one at myrtle beach bike week and almost pulled the trigger.35k motorcycle will scare off all but a small percentage of buyers.:flag:
 
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