Ignition

[lee]

has anyone upgraded their ignition? I read a piece somewhere where the bloke said the biggest single performance improvement he made was a crane ignition - perhaps he had a crap one to start with - is the stock ignition on a dog good? I can imagine a lot of people not thinking about the ignition for performance enhancement
Thanks
Lee

 

[lee]

I just noticed a thread in "tech" on ignition - don't I feel a dick - not that I understood a word of it!

 

[Gas Man]

Yeah Sul and Alhall are the resident ignition gurus...

 

[F_HEAD]

Just had the dyna put in mine

 

[pink chopper]

I think the Crane Hi4 works great...they used to be crap but in the last few years they are very dependable..Dyna's are good too but I've seen alot more failures with them then the Crane's...All of them have ocassional issues...if they're gonna be no good though they are usually that way right out of the package....I've put a few on my own bikes that didn't work right from the start...they are an improvement in performance though cause the stock ignition is programmed to keep you from really getting the optimum out of it...

 

[Gas Man]

Yeah I just orderd a a Crane hi4 from a very special person!

 

[F_HEAD]

Can I order Wizards from that same special person?

 

[05chop]

Yeah I just orderd a a Crane hi4 from a very special person!

gasman can you do a how to on this crane set up?in this picture it shows the key way im correct there is something that goes here that tells you of tdc?this is what you find when you remove the point cover.

 

[V]

Gas
I see your bike is a 06 model mine is a 05 with crank trigger and thunderheart under the side cover is that the same set up you have?

If so what model# ignition did you order. I am looking to order something in the next few weeks had been looking at the Zipper's TC stand alone ignition that is made by Thunderheart but I like the models that can be adjusted with a small screwdriver vs the laptop.

Thanks for your help V.

 

[F_HEAD]

My Dyna can be adjusted manualy(preset settings) or by laptop. Thunderheart is crap altogether. stay away.

 

[Gas Man]

Fhead... pm sent on the wizards

BDM... I will do ALOT of how to's this winter... including this... it will take me alot of time to do it all. I imagine the pics will be in the hundreds.

My 2006 doesn't have the hole in the cam cover. Have to order a new S&S cam cover then get it reemed for my cam bearing. Also ordered a pickup can (as sul called) or rotor (as alhall called). This will go with the Crane hi4. This was after talking it over with Alhall and Vickie. The hi4 is very well known and everybody uses it... kinda like the S&S super G. Something that most tuners will be able to work with.

 

[slowrower]

How To's are Awesome

Gas, Any chance when you create the how-to's you can make them PDF files we can download and print. I sure others like myself need something in hard copy while actually doing repairs, mods ..etc. I 've learned more in the last few months than I thought possible. Thanks again!!

 

[slowrower]

opps almost forgot

Gas, I have a website I could post the PDF files -- I repair rowing shells and teach folks how to do it http://www.cre8havoc.com

Thanks Again!

 

[Gas Man]

Slow.. I could put that all in a PDF... that's a good idea... I'll work on getting some of the others like that... give me some time.

 

[05chop]

In the right upper there is a plug in on the ignition modual .Is this programable? 05chop

 

[05chop]

Also Should there be a cap on this to keep water out?

 

[WB Cycles]

If that is a Thunderheart ignition module, then yes there is a "module to PC" cable that plugs in there. Unfortunately I can't tell for certain Chop. That does look like your circuit breaker line immediately below though.

Forgot to add that there is no "cap" showing in the parts reference for the module. That being said you would think that it would be sealed.

 

[V]

05 chop from what i've been told that ign. is not programable. It is made by Thunderheart. I have purchased one from them (Thunderheart) that is programable and will bolt back in the same place, it uses the same aluminum housing. It has 8 timing curves and 2 rev limit settings all wires are the same color except one but that will be easy to match. I haven't installed it yet but will update when I do.

V.

 

[05chop]

Good to know where did you buy this? 05chop

 

[Gas Man]

You can buy more than just thunderhearts that are direct plug ins. Crane Hi4C will do this. But like the thunderheart, you will need a laptop to do anything with it.