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I have a 2004 Ridgeback that randomly just completely shuts off, I keep my bike in a storage unit that has no outlets to hook a battery tender up to it, I am wondering if this maybe causing the issue with the battery not being fully charged
Any help would be appreciated
 

Sven

Well-Known Member
Let's put it this way... if the battery can start the bike, ohm's law has all 4 variables up to the task. In other words, it can save the current produced to recharge the battery; it has the 'push' to turn over the starter. So we rule out the AC and DC, i.e., the stator/VR/battery and that loop.

Next loop is the electrical integrity loop. That's more or less the tightness at the battery posts, the wires at key switch to coil wires, and now this group in the E loop is cleared away for any variables.

Last is the black box. So I know I will have integrity from battery to key to coil, and now I want to wire up a bulb off the coil. I simply want to see the bulb go out on the (+) side of the wire I used for the bulb. This way, I can determine if yes it stayed on, then I aim for the cam/crank sensor. No, it cut out, then I aim for the black box. Now I narrow down to either or this loop. To find out; does the bike start back up? Yes. Then it's the sensor. Did the bulb go out and come back on? Then it's the black box. Because the integrity is sound, it can't be a broken wire [in the path] if it starts back up again. Heat is the break and when it cools, the path comes back, and I'd think this would point to the jobber in the loop, not wire integrity.

And not to rule out that you may have answered your own question, I'd check the battery in the static, when running, when I hit the start button. I want to see 14v or more at idle. Static, I want to see 12.6v or more, because anything lower than 12.6 says charge me back up. 12.8v is ideal static sitting around for a few days after fully charged. A battery will lose 1% charge a day, so say a month sitting is 30% down are the days. And then the chemical reaction sets in. The white crust on the plates. The acid and water separate is all. By cooking the water, you mix it back into each other... thus the 'push' and Volts says battery is good.
 
Let's put it this way... if the battery can start the bike, ohm's law has all 4 variables up to the task. In other words, it can save the current produced to recharge the battery; it has the 'push' to turn over the starter. So we rule out the AC and DC, i.e., the stator/VR/battery and that loop.

Next loop is the electrical integrity loop. That's more or less the tightness at the battery posts, the wires at key switch to coil wires, and now this group in the E loop is cleared away for any variables.

Last is the black box. So I know I will have integrity from battery to key to coil, and now I want to wire up a bulb off the coil. I simply want to see the bulb go out on the (+) side of the wire I used for the bulb. This way, I can determine if yes it stayed on, then I aim for the cam/crank sensor. No, it cut out, then I aim for the black box. Now I narrow down to either or this loop. To find out; does the bike start back up? Yes. Then it's the sensor. Did the bulb go out and come back on? Then it's the black box. Because the integrity is sound, it can't be a broken wire [in the path] if it starts back up again. Heat is the break and when it cools, the path comes back, and I'd think this would point to the jobber in the loop, not wire integrity.

And not to rule out that you may have answered your own question, I'd check the battery in the static, when running, when I hit the start button. I want to see 14v or more at idle. Static, I want to see 12.6v or more, because anything lower than 12.6 says charge me back up. 12.8v is ideal static sitting around for a few days after fully charged. A battery will lose 1% charge a day, so say a month sitting is 30% down are the days. And then the chemical reaction sets in. The white crust on the plates. The acid and water separate is all. By cooking the water, you mix it back into each other... thus the 'push' and Volts says battery is good.
 

Sven

Well-Known Member
It means: do I have a crank or cam sensor heating up, shutting off the bike.
It means: do I have at least 5v to have the black box needing that much power to work the parts inside.

I heat up, I lose spark on the cam or crank sensor.
I lose 12v, I am under 5v and cannot trigger a spark, nor set the fuel to open and close.

So is it a sensor heating up, or low voltage at the battery?
 
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It means: do I have a crank or cam sensor heating up, shutting off the bike.
It means: do I have at least 5v to have the black box needing that much power to work the parts inside.

I heat up, I lose spark on the cam or crank sensor.
I lose 12v, I am under 5v and cannot trigger a spark, nor set the fuel to open and close.

So is it a sensor heating up, or low voltage at the battery?
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Mr. Wright

Knows some things
Supporting Member
Lets start over. When it shuts off, do the lights go out too? Will it start right back up? I never keep mine on the charger, but it is important to keep the battery cables tight.
 

Th3InfamousI

Administrator
Staff member
Lets start over. When it shuts off, do the lights go out too? Will it start right back up? I never keep mine on the charger, but it is important to keep the battery cables tight.
To add to Shannon's questions, how much mileage on this 04 rigid? Stock EHC by any chance?
 
Ehc was replaced under warrantywith a new potted one and it has only 12000 miles on it, I did replace the stator and VR last year
 

Sven

Well-Known Member
How about this... which is the scenario?
1. The bike runs a few minutes and then stalls. But about 15 minutes worth of waiting, it will starts right back up like normal. Yes, the light comes on when it runs again.

2. It stalls when I'm riding for over 15 minutes worth. I do not turn the key off, but just start cranking it over again to start it. I have to wait about 15 minutes or it just keeps cranking without restarting. If I wait, it always restarts again.

Choose the best one closest to the problem you have.
 
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